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Spingold Defense problem

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Posted 2009-August-14, 19:10

I didn't play the Spingold but I was kibitzer on this hand.
Scoring: IMP

North South
1 1
1NT 2*
2NT** 3
4

*GF relay
** Deny 3 cards in



Your partner lead the 6 of Spade ( 4th best), 9,10, Ace
The declarer plays the 3 of Diamond,7,J ( standard carding)

And now?
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Posted 2009-August-14, 19:21

N.M.

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Posted 2009-August-14, 19:23

What does N.M mean please?
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Posted 2009-August-14, 19:26

Never Mind. I asked what the lead was, but then you added it.

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Posted 2009-August-14, 19:36

club back, hoping declarer has AKx KJ8xxx xx Ax

After winning Q declarer is locked in dummy and must play a club back to hand, when he now plays a diamond towards dummy partner will hop with the ace, give us a ruff and we finally promote the setting trump trick.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 19:44

Fluffy, on Aug 14 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

club back, hoping declarer has AKx KJ8xxx xx Ax

wouldn't the declarer had tried the J from dummy with this holding?
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Posted 2009-August-14, 20:04

matmat, on Aug 14 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Aug 14 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

club back, hoping declarer has AKx KJ8xxx xx Ax

wouldn't the declarer had tried the J from dummy with this holding?

But wouldn't partner have led K if he had KQxxxx, and wouldn't declarer have played Q if he had AQx?

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Posted 2009-August-14, 20:32

barmar, on Aug 14 2009, 09:04 PM, said:

matmat, on Aug 14 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Aug 14 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

club back, hoping declarer has AKx KJ8xxx xx Ax

wouldn't the declarer had tried the J from dummy with this holding?

But wouldn't partner have led K if he had KQxxxx, and wouldn't declarer have played Q if he had AQx?

declarer could have AK tight, that does give p a 7 card suit... but a really crappy one :lol:
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Posted 2009-August-14, 21:16

Fluffy, on Aug 15 2009, 01:36 AM, said:

club back, hoping declarer has AKx KJ8xxx xx Ax

After winning Q declarer is locked in dummy and must play a club back to hand, when he now plays a diamond towards dummy partner will hop with the ace, give us a ruff and we finally promote the setting trump trick.

This is smart and could work.

Declarer's hand was the one you imagine but unfortunately he had also the 9 of Heart.

The declarer was a very good player but he went down here doing nothing very wrong I think.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 21:19

I would play the 9 back, as the only position that I can see which matters is when declarer has forgotten to unblock the singleton A for a ruffing finesse against me. There is also some chance that this works when partner has the singleton J and he can give me a spade ruff.

If declarer is AKx KJxxxx xx Ax there is nothing we can do to stop partner from being endplayed after declarer plays two rounds of clubs and plays a diamond towards the dummy.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 21:39

Declarer's hand was : ♠AKx ♥KJ98xx ♦xx ♣Ax

The defender thought for about 10 seconds and played back a trump.

Kyle Larsen thought also about 10 seconds and played the King from his hand to play Diamond again.

Oops said KL when the defender showed him his trumps :P

The defender looked at me and winked of an eye :lol:
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Posted 2009-August-15, 04:48

Doh, my first though was a heart when I saw the problem, hoping that partner had J or missguessed, but then I saw a club was also working then.

First impression tends to be right :)
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Posted 2009-August-15, 05:02

Nice play!
Maybe a diamond back and a spade ruff would also work - declarer might play us for Txx rather than QTxx.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 11:50

The defender was my favorite player in the world: My husband Philippe :lol:
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