[WesleyC]

Here are a few recent hands - IMP scoring.

1. UNFAV

(P) P (1NT*) 3D
(P) ???

*12-14, your system over NT is x=Pen, All the 2 bids show majors to some extent so 3D is P's cheapest natural diamond bid

532 A986 6 A9875

2. BOTH

P (P) 1C (x)
3C (4H) 5C (5H)
???

J6 --- JT9542 KT983

3. NIL

(1H) 1S (2D*) ???

* Natural, Non-forcing

J3 KJ6 JT KQT984

4. BOTH

P (3D) ???

AT987532 AT5 --- J9

5. BOTH

(3S) P (P) ???

T2 QT AKT9 AKJ53

6. NIL

(P) 1D (1H) P
(2H) P (P) x
(P) ???

K542 T AQT974 Q7

[Hanoi5]

1. I don't know what modd. capp. is but if partner is showing 4+ hearts or 5+ spades I want to be in game. If pd only has diamonds, Pass, unless the jump shows an extremely great hand.

2. 6♣

3. X

4. 4♠

5. X and probably pass 4♥.

6. Pass

[wclass___]

3N
Pass
Double
4♠
Pass
Pass

[pooltuna]

1) Well since you didn't just tell us what 3D means and since there was no X I will assume natural and pass

2) Need my guessing shoes since partner could have bid 5♣ hoping to jack up the opponents and not sure we aren't 3 off at 6♣ so I will pass.

3) pass ...chances for game look too bad at the moment.

4) 3♠ if partner has LR values I will get to game

5) X and pass 4♥

6) clearly partner had a penalty pass of 1♥ but do I have enough defense well tossup between pass and 3♦ I will pass.

[MFA]

1) Abstain. No idea what this system is.
2) Abstain. 3♣ is very silly with 6-5. It's 4 or 5 the first time. Bidding 3 and then act in front of partner should be a crime.
3) 3♣. Not forcing of course or we would need a system talk.
4) 4♠. I can see the point of bidding just three.
5) 3NT. Who cares about stoppers.
6) Pass wtp?

[FrancesHinden]

1. No idea what 'modified capp' is, but assuming 3D shows a weak hand with long diamonds what on earth would I do except pass?

2. Abstain. Would never have bid 3C.

3. Double, take-out

4. 4S, but I don't mind 3S either.

5. Double and pass 4H

6. Pass. This isn't a problem.

[nigel_k]

1. Pass.
2. 6♣, but would not have bid this way.
3. Double or 3♣ according to system.
4. 4♠.
5. Double and pass 4♥. Good luck partner.
6. Pass. Partner will expect something like this so why pull?

[OleBerg]

1) Unless I have some obscure agreement, Pass is wtp?. (If partner claims "We play constructive on destructive bids, you need a talk.)

2) Pass. Mostly because I don't wanna give them a free forcing pass.

3) X. I'm probably overbidding again.

4) 4♠. Does not set up a force.

5) Tough. Anything can look silly. I see no evil, and bid 3NT.

6) Pass wtp?

[effervesce]

1) Pass
2) 6♣ - would have bid 5 the first time though and then passed.
3) 3♣ if nonforcing otherwise X then 3♣ if that's non-forcing
4) 4♠ - would prefer to bid only 3 as this isn't quite strong enough for 4 but partner is likely to bid something that's not a spade raise and I will have to rebid spades anyway
5) 3NT. Could be silly yes, but bidding this way has worked out more often than not.
6) Partner's made a penalty double. Obv pass.

[shyams]

1. Pass. If partner had a great hand and nearly solid diamonds, he would use penaly dbl
2. Pass. The earlier 3♣ was a feeble effort
3. 3♣ Hopefully non forcing
4. 4♠ 8-card suits are rare and deserve being respected
5. Dbl
6. Pass happily

[Fluffy]

5 is very tough would bid 3NT at MPs, but at IMPs it is so risky, I am bidding a dreadful 4♣.

[dake50]

1. Assume 6xD solid would try penalty. 3D has 1-3 trump losers. Quit.
2. Was 5C to make or with no 4th trick against 4H? Any doubt let opponents have
5-level. My agreements 5C has no 4xDT so 6C.
3. Meta-agree new suit has at least tolerance for partner's overcall. Why in an auction
that screams misfit? Show clubs
4. Call my 8-suit trumps. 4S hoping partner has 4 working cards of 5:SK, HKQ,
CAH/AQ/KQ if he ups
5. 4C if it denies H-interest (as no T/O X)
6. No negX, no raise, no C-bid, no NT earlier from partner. Hope he heard my
minimum pass.

[wclass___]

Fluffy, on Aug 8 2009, 07:47 AM, said:

5 is very tough would bid 3NT at MPs, but at IMPs it is so risky, I am bidding a dreadful 4♣.

So you will go for +600 at MPs and +130 at IMPs?
Where is the logic?

Pass seems obvious, 3N as a distant 2nd choise.
I am pretty sure that anything but Pass on average will pruduce negative score.

[Fluffy]

wclass___, on Aug 9 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Aug 8 2009, 07:47 AM, said:

5 is very tough  would bid 3NT at MPs, but at IMPs it is so risky, I am bidding a dreadful 4♣.

So you will go for +600 at MPs and +130 at IMPs?
Where is the logic?

Pass seems obvious, 3N as a distant 2nd choise.
I am pretty sure that anything but Pass on average will pruduce negative score.

Logic being I don't mind -700 or -1100 at MPs as much as I do at IMPs, and that +130 is not what I am hoping for, I await partner to bid 4♥ or 5♣ if it is right.

[wclass___]

Fluffy, on Aug 9 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

Logic being I don't mind -700 or -1100 at MPs as much as I do at IMPs, and that +130 is not what I am hoping for, I await partner to bid 4♥ or 5♣ if it is right.

I doun't get...
You bid 3N at Mps not expecting to get a good score on average?

How can partner know if it is right to bid over 4♣?
♠xx ♥QT doesn't give much enthusiasm (at least for me) to dream about 4♥ or 5♣, especially knowing that parter normally has at least 2♠, and trumps most probably split badly.
3♠-1 and 4♣-1 gives 5 IMp difference, IMO fortunate outcome for this bid.

[hatchett]

I like 3NT on 5, has to be the most likely game. If there are 3♠ opposite there is a stop nearly all the time, when there are 2 sometimes partner has the A orK and if partner pulls to 4!h I feel fine about it. I certainly don't expect to be double in it very often and would run anyway.

[nige1]

WesleyC, on Aug 7 2009, 11:02 AM, said:

Here are a few recent hands - IMP scoring.
1. UNFAV 532 A986 6 A9875
(P) P (1NT*) 3D
(P) ???
*12-14, your system over NT is x=Pen, All the 2 bids show majors to some extent so 3D is P's cheapest natural diamond bid
2. BOTH J6 --- JT9542 KT983
P (P) 1C (x)
3C (4H) 5C (5H)
???
3.  NIL J3 KJ6 JT KQT984
(1H) 1S (2D*) ???
* Natural, Non-forcing
4. BOTH AT987532 AT5 --- J9
P (3D) ???
5. BOTH T2 QT AKT9 AKJ53
(3S) P (P) ???
6. NIL K542 T AQT974 Q7
(P) 1D (1H) P
(2H) P  (P) x
(P) ???

IMO

• _P = 10, 3N = 6.
  
• _P = 10, 6♣ = 5. But I would have bid 5C immediately :}
  
• _2♥ = 10, 2♠ = 9, _P = 8, 3♣ = 7.
  
• _4♠ = 10, _P = 8, 3♠ = 6.
  
• _X = 10, 3N = 6, 4♣ = 5, 4♠ = 4, _P = 3.
  
• _P = 10, 2♠ = 3.

[skjaeran]

1. Pass
2. Abstain (alternatively pass)
3. 3♣, x close 2nd choice
4. 3♠, definitely not 4♠ IMO
5. 3NT, x not so distant alternative
6. Pass, wtp?

[WesleyC]

Apologies for posting a fairly boring set of problems. They came up playing with a new partner and we've got a few stylistic differences.

1. This was an eye-opener for me. I've always thought it was standard for jumps to the 3 level over a Weak NT to show a good hand. Even more so when unfavourable opposite a passed partner. Turns out partner was on the same wavelength as the rest of you. We got to 3NT a couple off.

2. One thing i didn't include in the context of this problem is that you're playing a Weak NT system. A lot of you didn't like the 3C bid - i'm not sure I do either but I'm not thrilled about the alternatives. On the actual deal 6C was a lucky make (opposite AQx xx Kx AQxxxx). 5H was also making. My usual partner and I play that double by a pre-empter (after being raised) suggests a wish to compete further which would've been perfect on this deal.

3. I was interested in finding out whether its standard to play 3C as forcing or non-forcing. I would double on this hand, preferring another sharp card for a (forcing) 3C bid. On the actual hand partner bid 3C (assuming it was NF). Everything sat terribly for us and we were headed for a very bad board until the 2D bidder (holding a 3370 5 count) bailed us out by competing in hearts.

4. My usual agreement is that 4S here shows a powerful single suiter, so this hand didn't qualify. Responses to this post have confirmed that most of you bid 4S just 'to play'. I bid 3S and the auction continued (5D) p (p) ???. I guessed to pass but it would've be nice to have been able to bid 4S the first time. There were 11 tricks in diamonds and 9 or 10 in Spades.

5. Opposite AQ KJxxx xxxx xx 5NT 5H 6D 4C are making. We got to 5 clubs.

6. I was venting a little with this post - 2H was making, our way.

[gwnn]

3. the fourth suit is generally played as non forcing when we overcalled.