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Pass or bid? Partner overcalls 4H

Poll: Is your hand worth a move? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

Is your hand worth a move?

  1. Pass (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  2. Bid (25 votes [92.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 92.59%

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Posted 2009-July-29, 17:29

♠AKJxxx
♥xx
♦Axx
♣xx

IMPs, all white, LHO dealer.

(3♦) - 4♥ - (Pass)

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Posted 2009-July-29, 17:31

Partner JUMPED in Hearts

How the hell can you not bid?
I'd bid 6♥ before I passed
7♥ might be better than a pass
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Posted 2009-July-29, 17:34

hrothgar, on Jul 29 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

Partner JUMPED in Hearts

How the hell can you not bid?

I agree. I'm guessing there is some UI involved in the actual problem and the objective of the thread is to determine whether pass is a logical alternative.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 18:19

Agree with 6h
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Posted 2009-July-29, 18:34

TimG, on Jul 29 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

I'm guessing there is some UI involved in the actual problem and the objective of the thread is to determine whether pass is a logical alternative.

The poll results will only be valid for that purpose if all the respondents are peers of the player who was in the hot seat. I suspect that's unlikely. :)
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Posted 2009-July-29, 18:47

TimG, on Jul 29 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Jul 29 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

Partner JUMPED in Hearts

How the hell can you not bid?

I agree. I'm guessing there is some UI involved in the actual problem and the objective of the thread is to determine whether pass is a logical alternative.

There is no UI if partner made a BIT, he might be too strong for 4♥ or have a 2 suiter or whatever. He should have touched a pass card for a UI to happen IMO (an UI that suggest a pass I mean), not very likelly.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 21:13

I bid but I wouldn't be surprised if a diamond lead took out the entry to our source of tricks. Still, I'd bet the spade hook is working, wouldn't you?

6♥ seems like a good shot. I'll never know what I need for 7.
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Posted 2009-July-30, 03:28

Instead of blasting 6 I would rather use KCBW, it will let us stay in 5 if 2 keycards are missing and also show to partner that we have 2 keycards, maybe that's all wich he needs.
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Posted 2009-July-30, 07:48

♠Qx
♥AKQxxx
♦xx
♣AKx

Grand slam makes in either major (the spade grand is substantially better than the heart grand, as it does not require hearts 3-2).

The player holding this hand at the table passed. Push board when opponents at the other table played in 4♠ after a (mostly) unobstructed strong club auction. ;)
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Posted 2009-July-30, 11:36

Phil, on Jul 30 2009, 03:13 PM, said:

I bid but I wouldn't be surprised if a diamond lead took out the entry to our source of tricks. Still, I'd bet the spade hook is working, wouldn't you?

6♥ seems like a good shot. I'll never know what I need for 7.

Why not try a cue-bid. Tell partner what you have got and you might tell her enough that she knows that there is a grand.
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Posted 2009-July-30, 11:42

Fluffy, on Jul 30 2009, 04:28 AM, said:

Instead of blasting 6 I would rather use KCBW, it will let us stay in 5 if 2 keycards are missing and also show to partner that we have 2 keycards, maybe that's all wich he needs.

Yeah, I don't understand 6♥. Sometimes partner has an 8-card suit with one keycard, sometimes he can bid 7.
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Posted 2009-July-31, 10:00

5♦ sounds right to me. It's obviously a move toward slam and tells partner someting he needs to know.
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