[Fluffy]

Kxx
AK1098xx
x
Kx


IMPs, NS vul, dealer north.

Pass-1♥
1♠-??

[cRi cRi]

3♥

7 card suit with AK and Kxx in my partner suit. IMP and VUL !

[the hog]

Who bid 1S Fluffy. partner or lho? If partner I bid 3H

[pooltuna]

Ugly hand you could be cold for slam but hard to bid. I bid what I think we can make opp a min response 4♥

[cRi cRi]

I dont think I can make 4♥ if part passes 3♥ exept the dream hand with 2 small ♥ and QJ♠ and Q♦. And ♥ to be divided 2-2.

4♥ is too much imho ... and I am junior

[mich-b]

cRi cRi, on Jul 28 2009, 08:32 AM, said:

I dont think I can make 4♥ if part passes 3♥ exept the dream hand with 2 small ♥ and QJ♠ and Q♦. And ♥ to be divided 2-2.

4♥ is too much imho ... and I am junior

Agree with cRi cRi.

[Fluffy]

I wasn't playing with my regular partner, but I was thinking I might bid 2NT with him (forcing for us althou normally 18/19 bal), to let him find the 5-3 spade fit or otherwise rectify to 4♥.

Add me the ♠J and I think I would had done it even with a pickup partner. partner being a passed hand protects you (not fully) from scary 5m or slam contracts.

[pooltuna]

cRi cRi, on Jul 28 2009, 08:32 AM, said:

I dont think I can make 4♥ if part passes 3♥ exept the dream hand with 2 small ♥ and QJ♠ and Q♦. And ♥ to be divided 2-2.

4♥ is too much imho ... and I am junior

then run a simulation I think you will find the results indicate that the 50% probability of making is reached

I am 50% to make 6♥ opposite
Axxxx
-
Axxx
AQxx

[Phil]

pooltuna, on Jul 28 2009, 09:49 AM, said:

I am 50% to make 6♥ opposite
Axxxx
-
Axxx
AQxx

LOL at examples like this. How in the world does partner know that the ♣Q is helpful but the ♦Q isn't (as much)? And why are we stretching to bid 50% slams anyway? Even then, how does partner ever intelligently advance? 5♥ (over 4) certainly looks reasonable, but what kind of trump do I need to accept? There is a substantial difference between AQ 8th, AK empty 7th, and AKT9-7th.

I bid a very comfortable 3♥. It is neither an underbid, nor an overbid. While it isn't forcing (although some play it as such), it allows partner to cue 4m.

[Cascade]

The_Hog, on Jul 29 2009, 01:21 AM, said:

Who bid 1S Fluffy. partner or lho? If partner I bid 3H

It wasn't clear to me either that this was an uncontested auction but everyone else seems to assume so. So ...

We play:

2NT shows six hearts without three spades and around 15/16+

3♥ show six hearts with three spades and around 15/16+ but limited

3NT shows six hearts with three spades unlimited

4♥ is like 3NT but more distribution so less inclined to hear partner pass 3NT

With seven hearts I would be happy to upgrade and bid 3♥ under this scheme.

[Cascade]

pooltuna, on Jul 29 2009, 02:49 AM, said:

cRi cRi, on Jul 28 2009, 08:32 AM, said:

I dont think I can make 4♥ if part passes 3♥ exept the dream hand with 2 small ♥ and QJ♠ and Q♦. And ♥ to be divided 2-2.

4♥ is too much imho ... and I am junior

then run a simulation I think you will find the results indicate that the 50% probability of making is reached

I am 50% to make 6♥ opposite
Axxxx
-
Axxx
AQxx

Over a standard 4♥ I would expect my partner to drive to slam with much less.

[skjaeran]

3♥ for me, 4♥ is a little too romantic....

[Free]

pooltuna, on Jul 28 2009, 03:49 PM, said:

I am 50% to make 6♥ opposite
Axxxx
-
Axxx
AQxx

Congratulations, but partner is a passed hand...

I'd Gazzilli this one, easy to show a 3 card support and a strong hand Otherwise 3♥.

[pooltuna]

Free, on Jul 28 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Jul 28 2009, 03:49 PM, said:

I am 50% to make 6♥ opposite
Axxxx
-
Axxx
AQxx

Congratulations, but partner is a passed hand...

I'd Gazzilli this one, easy to show a 3 card support and a strong hand Otherwise 3♥.

Not a problem although I wasn't too much worried about slam but I will accept
AQxx
xxx
xxx
Axx

[Echognome]

Partner is not likely to have 3-card heart support. With the given 4333 hand, partner would (should) Drury.

I would just bid 3♥, since my 7-card suit is pretty good. With a worse suit, I might just bid 2♠.