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Posted 2009-July-18, 08:31
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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Posted 2009-July-18, 09:18
2C always.. maybe partner would come back with some bid i like..
If he comes back with 2S, i dont think i can do better than raise to 3S.
If he comes back with 2S, i dont think i can do better than raise to 3S.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 10:47
I always GF whenever I have an average 12 or better, so this one is actually pretty decent (5 card suit, concentrated honours) so I will bid 2♣.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 10:56
If partner routinely opens 10-11 counts this isn't a GF - one of the problems inherent in playing standardish methods combined with weakish openings.
If opening hands show better (decent 12 count on up) then there is no use second guessing if game makes or not so go ahead and make the GF 2/1.
If opening hands show better (decent 12 count on up) then there is no use second guessing if game makes or not so go ahead and make the GF 2/1.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 10:58
zheddh, on Jul 18 2009, 10:18 AM, said:
2C always.. maybe partner would come back with some bid i like..
If he comes back with 2S, i dont think i can do better than raise to 3S.
If he comes back with 2S, i dont think i can do better than raise to 3S.
In my 2/1, 1S-2C-2S-3S would show real spade support, good clubs, and a slam invitation. It would NEVER be a 12-count and worthless doubleton spade.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 12:36
Here's the full hand. Assign the blame, if any.
Scoring: MP
1♠:2♣
2♥:3♦
3♥:3nt
1♠:2♣
2♥:3♦
3♥:3nt
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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Posted 2009-July-18, 12:47
No blame, just two misfitting complete mins. South should rebid 2NT not 3♦ but it made no difference.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 14:10
2C is normal.
The opening as well, of course you knowing p hand, pass
would have worked better, but most would have opened.
I dont like 3D, for me this is FSF, but it is most likely a
matter of agreement, I prefer 2NT, p will bid 3H over
2NT, you will bid 3NT.
With kind regards
Marlowe
The opening as well, of course you knowing p hand, pass
would have worked better, but most would have opened.
I dont like 3D, for me this is FSF, but it is most likely a
matter of agreement, I prefer 2NT, p will bid 3H over
2NT, you will bid 3NT.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2009-July-18, 14:24
P_Marlowe, on Jul 18 2009, 01:10 PM, said:
2C is normal.
The opening as well, of course you knowing p hand, pass
would have worked better, but most would have opened.
I dont like 3D, for me this is FSF, but it is most likely a
matter of agreement, I prefer 2NT, p will bid 3H over
2NT, you will bid 3NT.
With kind regards
Marlowe
The opening as well, of course you knowing p hand, pass
would have worked better, but most would have opened.
I dont like 3D, for me this is FSF, but it is most likely a
matter of agreement, I prefer 2NT, p will bid 3H over
2NT, you will bid 3NT.
With kind regards
Marlowe
After 2♣ we are aready in a gf auction so 3♦ would be showing shape, asking for a stopper.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
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Posted 2009-July-20, 00:40
But there is surely no reason to ask for a stopper, or does it ask for a heart stopper?
Anyway, no blame, as Josh said, two non fitting minimums.
In my methods I had been in 4 spade, no success either.
Anyway, no blame, as Josh said, two non fitting minimums.
In my methods I had been in 4 spade, no success either.
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