[Dealing_Don]

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Can you please be more specific about the information you would like to see?

Would the "description" of the tournament be sufficient?

Yes, the primary goal is showing the description with the listing of the TDs running the tournament.

[Dealing_Don]

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If a TD is involved in more than one running tournament (which I believe is frequently the case for ACBL TDs like you), there is no easy way for the software to know which tournament a "player's results" request should pertain to.

Since a player can only be in one active tournament at a time, I would think that Show Results for Current Tournament would definitely be an 80 for 20 solution.

The system would have to look at the player, see if they were active in a tournament and then either before or after the click would have to check to see if the (clicking) member had permission to view the results.

Don

[fred]

Dealing_Don, on Aug 16 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

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If a TD is involved in more than one running tournament (which I believe is frequently the case for ACBL TDs like you), there is no easy way for the software to know which tournament a "player's results" request should pertain to.

Since a player can only be in one active tournament at a time, I would think that Show Results for Current Tournament would definitely be an 80 for 20 solution.

The system would have to look at the player, see if they were active in a tournament and then either before or after the click would have to check to see if the (clicking) member had permission to view the results.

Don

The problem is that the client itself doesn't necessarily "know" what tournament a given user is playing in and the mechanism that requests results for a player takes a tournament ID as input. It is certainly a solvable problem, but solving it will be awkward.

Anyways, thanks for clarifying. I will discuss your suggestions with Jacki and Uday. If they agrees that these are worthwhile improvements then we will likely make it happen before too long.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

[Dealing_Don]

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The problem is that the client itself doesn't necessarily "know" what tournament a given user is playing in and the mechanism that requests results for a player takes a tournament ID as input. It is certainly a solvable problem, but solving it will be awkward

Is this also the explanation for why sometimes the rightclick to join table isn't a rightclick option? Do you need to be "linked" to a tournament before the client can find the table of the person in question?

It seems like sometimes, when a private message comes in, I have to view a player's profile to find the tournament and table the person is at and then use the table view to have full rightclick options available.

[cherdanno]

It happens fairly frequently for me that the "My Results" tab isn't working properly. I click on a row in the results field, it does get highlighted, but the area below (where the play is shown) does not change, i.e. it is still showing the same board as before.
It seems to happen
- always when I have played a tournament, click on the "Other tables", click on some results there, then click on "My table", and then click on the results line for another board.
- sometimes when I am watching vuegraph, click on "Other table", and click on a results line for a board that was played while I was watching.

Using Flash player version 10,0,32,18 on Firefox (3.0.13, ubuntu).

[fred]

cherdanno, on Sep 6 2009, 07:48 PM, said:

It happens fairly frequently for me that the "My Results" tab isn't working properly. I click on a row in the results field, it does get highlighted, but the area below (where the play is shown) does not change, i.e. it is still showing the same board as before.
It seems to happen
- always when I have played a tournament, click on the "Other tables", click on some results there, then click on "My table", and then click on the results line for another board.
- sometimes when I am watching vuegraph, click on "Other table", and click on a results line for a board that was played while I was watching.

Using Flash player version 10,0,32,18 on Firefox (3.0.13, ubuntu).

The vugraph issue is the result of an extra level of vugraph security that is currently in use only major WBF tournaments. There is a similar issue under these circumstances with the MOVIE window in the Windows client.

I am not sure what the tournament issue is all about, but thanks for letting me know about it. I will investigate and try to fix the problem in the next version.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

[TimG]

When checking out the results at the other table during a vugraph match, there seems to be no indication of the names of the players at the other table. The best way to find out that I have found is to go to "BBO now" to open the vugraph window and scroll through to find the other table with the names of the players listed.

When I am looking through my friends list and right click on a player's name, there is no "join player's table" option unless I have previously opened his profile.

[fred]

TimG, on Sep 7 2009, 01:19 AM, said:

When checking out the results at the other table during a vugraph match, there seems to be no indication of the names of the players at the other table.  The best way to find out that I have found is to go to "BBO now" to open the vugraph window and scroll through to find the other table with the names of the players listed.

This is another consequence of the WBF's vugraph security procedures not working seemlessly with our software. The web-client will work as you would expect it to for non-WBF tournaments.

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When I  am looking through my friends list and right click on a player's name, there is no "join player's table" option unless I have previously opened his profile.

That is because, unlike the Windows client, the web-client doesn't "know" if a given player is at a table or not. The reason we do this is because the approach taken in the Windows client is not scalable. When some sufficiently large number of users are online the Windows client will grind to a halt - those with slow connections might notice this happening already at times. When some other sufficiently large number of users is online our servers will grind to a halt as a result of having to service too many Windows clients.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

[barmar]

fred, on Sep 7 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

TimG, on Sep 7 2009, 01:19 AM, said:

When I  am looking through my friends list and right click on a player's name, there is no "join player's table" option unless I have previously opened his profile.

That is because, unlike the Windows client, the web-client doesn't "know" if a given player is at a table or not. The reason we do this is because the approach taken in the Windows client is not scalable. When some sufficiently large number of users are online the Windows client will grind to a halt - those with slow connections might notice this happening already at times. When some other sufficiently large number of users is online our servers will grind to a halt as a result of having to service too many Windows clients.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

When the server is slow (thankfully, a rare occurrence these days), you can actually see what's going on. When you bring up a player's profile, it may display "Searching" for a few seconds before displaying what table the player is at (and occasionally when things are really overloaded, the profile window may time out before it finishes). It would be unacceptable to have to wait for this when just popping up the menu, so I assume right-click doesn't even try.

[fred]

I am closing this thread. There is a new one available here:

Link to new thread for web-client feedback

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com