PFormaini, on May 23 2009, 06:23 PM, said:
This is the problem. You make the same points over and over, but no one was convinced before, so....
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1. Partner may have values that translate to a game or slam for your side.
You keep saying slam, but that's utterly ridiculous to cater to. As for game, good thing I bid it!
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2. You know absolutely nothing about RHOs hand.
3. You know absolutely nothing about LHOs hand.
How can you not see that it's more relevant RHO and LHO don't know anything about each other's hands, yet you are going to let them easily find out instead of preventing them from finding out?
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4. You make a preemptive bid with what may be the strongest hand at the table.
Who cares what you call it? And why are you worried about a 2
♣ opener on a 16 count?
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And you think *I* am not a good partner?
No, what I said was that passing a bunch of times has nothing to do with partnership bridge, and that it was funny to claim it does when you are forgetting to focus on the other partnership.
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Sorry. I will bid the hand slowly - learning what I can about the opponents hands - perhaps inviting partner into the bidding if the auction permits (and it very well may, permitting us to bid our laydown 3NT instead of going down in 5♣. Or in bidding our club (or diamond) slam.
You keep making these general arguments that mean nothing. How will you invite partner into the auction, what will the auction be exactly? How will the auction go that lets you bid 3NT if it's making? And why are you so focused on slam, your partner is broke or nearly broke, it's plain as day.
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Or I will consult partner and possibly get a plus score by DOUBLING THE OPPONENTS in 6♠ or 6♦.
But don't you see? Against you the opponents will have a nice quiet unimpeded auction to the correct contract, they won't get too high. Against a 5
♣ overcall they have to guess and may well get too high.
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Or - as is possible, I will defeat the OPPONENTS in 3NY (and Yes, I have seen opponents reach 3NT on such hands - often. Amazing how many people take a chance on 3NT with 10 x x as a 'stopper' - or on the chance the suit will not be led.)
Lol. You have 2 cards in the majors, and the opponents have a combined 23 at most, and you are going to sit there because they might reach 3NT with a suit unstopped? Are you even being serious?
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But what I will NOT do is pretend that I have any idea what I am doing by bidding an inane 5♣ with absolutely nothing to go on. A bid that tells partner precisely NOTHING about my hand. As opposed to a 5♣ bid on:
♠ x x
♥ -
♦ x x
♣K Q J 10 9 7 6 5 3
Which tells partner I have no defensive values, a long and broken club suit - and permits HIM/HER to make a rational decision based on BOTH hands.
Again, who cares what you tell your broke partner? Please show me the auction where it is so crucial he knows what you have? You keep saying that, and ignoring that the opponents will know what they have too. Which is a more important concern?
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Old fashioned, I know. But effective.
If you say so. Convince anyone yet?
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