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Invite or Pass Getting to understand what is standard

#1 User is online   P_Marlowe 

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Posted 2009-May-03, 09:43

Hi,

playing IMPs, all green you hold in 2nd seat

105
AKJ10
72
AK1043

You play a simple 2/1 system, although the issue would also arise
in a standard system context.

The auction develops

(Pass) - 1 - (1) - 1NT
(Pass) - ???

You are more or less certain (?!), that partner denies a 4 card heart suit,
so the question is, do you make another move?
If it matters, you were prepared to bid 2 over 1, which may or
may not already answer the question, if you make a move now.

2NT from partner after 2 would be Lebensohl / a weak Relais to 3.

If the vulnerability affects your decision, please mention it.

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Posted 2009-May-03, 09:45

I would, for me 1NT shows a little more than a 1S response.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-May-03, 10:06

I'm closer to just bidding 3NT than passing. A 1NT response in competition is not a 6 or lousy 7 count (please no debate from Phil or any Brits, I know it's different for you) and I look to have two great sources of tricks.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-May-03, 10:39

Invite.
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Posted 2009-May-04, 03:29

Hi,

the "Brit" (me) was holding the given hand facing an North American
player, so it should come as no surprise, that 3NT makes, being fairly
cold. I am not good at calculating the percentages, how often it makes,
but it should be way over 50%..

It may have been a more interesting question, if I would have asked,
what to bid with my partners hand:

K983
952
KQ10
QJ6

Personnally I find 1NT a bit too heavy for my taste, but I can live with the
decision:

#1 4333 shape
#2 a hand dominated by Queens and Jacks,
i.e. selling the hand as 10HCP is reasonable, and it may well be, that I am
influenced by the fact, that

#1 I know my hand
#2 I am used to play NFB, i.e. I am used to make a neg. X with the given hand
#3 I usually play with a partner who knowes, that he sometimes faces a black
hole, if it comes to acount for missing HCPs.

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Posted 2009-May-04, 06:26

Pass is not a consideration for me, I lean towards 3N as the decent 5 bagger may easily produce 5 tricks. There are too many minimums partner will pass that give game a good play.
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Posted 2009-May-04, 06:44

I'd bid 2NT with partner's hand, which I play as 10-12... However I think I will treat this as 11, since although I'm 4333, I have so many spots.
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Posted 2009-May-04, 07:24

Pass is no option, the choice is between inviting and bidding (or forcing to) game).

As for Josh's remark about Brits: If many British players play the 1NT response as 6-8 it is related to the notrump range. Or, if they happen to play strong notrump, related to the fact that they grew up in a weak-notrump culture.
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Posted 2009-May-04, 11:38

That 1NT was sort of heavy. I would have invited with your hand though. The important card was the 10, however...

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Posted 2009-May-04, 11:41

Partner should not risk missing game with his 11 count and a likely double spade stop. So respond 2NT. For me a no brainer.
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Posted 2009-May-04, 13:17

I'd invite here for sure with two likely sources of tricks.
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