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Worth a cuebid? Slam try after a control response to 2C

Poll: What would you bid on this auction? (9 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you bid on this auction?

  1. 4C (2 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  2. 4D (retransfer to hearts) (4 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

  3. 4S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Other (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

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#1 User is offline   Fasteddy 

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Posted 2009-April-24, 15:35

You hold:
x
JTxxx
xxx
Axxx

The auction begins 2 (strong) - 2 (2 controls) ; 2NT - 3 (transfer) ; 3 (non-specific super-accept). What's your next call?

Bonus question: If you bid 4 and pard says 4 (last-train), do you bid 4 or 4?
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Posted 2009-April-24, 15:40

This is a really tough one. Partner might have something like:

KQx
AKQx
AKQx
Jx
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Posted 2009-April-24, 16:05

I'd sign off. Partner already knows about my ace, so all I have in the way of extra values are the jack of hearts, which is partially wasted opposite four-card support, and the four-card side suit, which is somewhat lacking in body.

If you do bid 4, it ought to show a second suit, to allow partner to judge how well his hand fits. Having bid 4, I certainly wouldn't show any more interest after that.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-April-24, 16:21

Yes, 4C. 4S next.

Hopefully, my partner already knows where my 2 controls are, and I am pretty confident about the 5th level being (more or less) safe so I really like 4S here...
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
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Posted 2009-April-24, 16:32

If we are going to have these agreements, lets add it 3N as a spade cue.
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Posted 2009-April-24, 20:33

I would also play partner for KQx AKQx AKQx Qx and sign off.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-25, 00:09

3NT. And then pull the brakes.
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Posted 2009-April-26, 04:45

I'd not cuebid the ace partner knows I'm holding.
A cue now should show a singelton, and 4 be a signoff. I'd prefer to be able to bid 3NT showing a spade singleton here. If that's not possilbe, I'd signoff with 4.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 03:37

Many people seem to be influenced from another thread we had about this hand, but there is a difference: HEre 3 Spade was just a superaccept and does not show anything in spades.

Partmer may hold xxx,AKQx,AKQx,KQ and needs to know your side suit controls.
So I guess all 4 Heart bidderss are missing too many slams.

I would try 3 NT as a spade cuebid if this is what I am playing, 3 NT as serious if this is my approach or a simple 4 club if nothing else is avaiable.

And I try 4 spade over 4 Heart if I have too use the last approach.
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Posted 2009-April-27, 04:22

The spade singleton may be golden, but are we sure pard knows our 2 controls are the club ace??

If so, then one could try 4 now. If not (my opinion) I'll just bid 4.
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