[ewj]

Scoring: IMP

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What do you open?

[hanp]

1C, but 5C is far from insane imo.

[ewj]

hanp, on Apr 26 2009, 06:53 PM, said:

1C, but 5C is far from insane imo.

Oh and if partner responses 1M, what do you rebid?

[hanp]

Responses?

I think it is unlikely that it goes 1C - p - 1X - p but if it does then I'll rebid 5C.

[ewj]

hanp, on Apr 26 2009, 07:03 PM, said:

Responses?

I think it is unlikely that it goes 1C - p - 1X - p but if it does then I'll rebid 5C.

Ok, well at the table it goes 1♣-(1♦)-1♥-2♦ to you. So 5♣ then presumably.

[hanp]

No if they bid a suit then I will cuebid and then rebid clubs.

[jdonn]

I open 5♣ since I'm sure only almost every auction it will be my rebid anyway.

That's actually a poor way to state my reason, it's more that I don't know how much opening 1 does for slam exploration since it's far from clear what rebidding 5 shows anyway, other than a ton of playing strength.

[dake50]

Do you have a solid suit opener to next show H-void? Help partner make a slam try eg. with S-Q+D-AK.

[andy_h]

5C. Science can a be a bit hard with a 9card suit so I prefer to put a bit of pressure on the opponents.

[JLOL]

jdonn, on Apr 26 2009, 07:19 PM, said:

I open 5♣ since I'm sure only almost every auction it will be my rebid anyway.

That's actually a poor way to state my reason, it's more that I don't know how much opening 1 does for slam exploration since it's far from clear what rebidding 5 shows anyway, other than a ton of playing strength.

It's clear that it shows a hand too good to open 5C, and thus partner will often bid 6 on hands that would pass a 5 level opener when we have a slam.

[jdonn]

JLOL, on Apr 26 2009, 10:31 PM, said:

jdonn, on Apr 26 2009, 07:19 PM, said:

I open 5♣ since I'm sure only almost every auction it will be my rebid anyway.

That's actually a poor way to state my reason, it's more that I don't know how much opening 1 does for slam exploration since it's far from clear what rebidding 5 shows anyway, other than a ton of playing strength.

It's clear that it shows a hand too good to open 5C, and thus partner will often bid 6 on hands that would pass a 5 level opener when we have a slam.

Or hands that don't since he doesn't know our void? Obv it gets us to more slams, it's just whether enough more of them are good than bad to counteract the advantages of opening 5 in case they have a save or make a lot. I really don't think so, how many times if your life have you opened 1m planning to rebid 5? None for me.

[Fluffy]

IMO 1♣ then 5♣ would also mean more defensive values than 5♣ opening. I don't think ♠K is enough, I better open 5♣.

[Phil]

1♣. At any other colors besides w/r I'd open this 5.

[mich-b]

An idea I saw people use :

a 4NT opening showing a "good 5 of a minor" bid , somewhat like 4m Namyats opening.

This opening fits well for this thread's hand.

[whereagles]

I like a direct 5♣.

[Hanoi5]

5♣

[hanp]

Phil, on Apr 27 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

1♣. At any other colors besides w/r I'd open this 5.

That's interesting because I would think these are the most appealing colors to open 5C.

[jdonn]

hanp, on Apr 27 2009, 08:26 AM, said:

Phil, on Apr 27 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

1♣. At any other colors besides w/r I'd open this 5.

That's interesting because I would think these are the most appealing colors to open 5C.

Just call him no-phear-phil.

[Phil]

hanp, on Apr 27 2009, 08:26 AM, said:

Phil, on Apr 27 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

1♣. At any other colors besides w/r I'd open this 5.

That's interesting because I would think these are the most appealing colors to open 5C.

Which is the best reason not to open a hand with 10 tricks 5♣?

In some of my partnerships I use a 4N opening to show a 'good' 5m opener, and this would qualify.

[hanp]

The best reason not to open 5C is that you will miss some slams. This will hurt least when you are NV.

Then best reason to open 5C is that you put some pressure on the opponents. This is best when they are vulnerable.