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#1 User is offline   luke warm 

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Posted 2009-March-24, 15:57

*now* we're cooking
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:27

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*now* we're cooking


Cooking what, quiche?

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Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, Obama said the threat of al-Qaida and its terrorist affiliates has not gone away. As a consequence, he said, "it's important for us to stay on the offensive." Yet he emphasized that the U.S, working with its coalition partners, cannot simply win the war militarily.


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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:29

What is this thread about? I looked at the news article but didn't see anything new and I don't understand the cooking reference. Is the title sarcastic or serious? I'm lost.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:32

Gotta win the peace, too.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:45

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What is this thread about?


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Posted 2009-March-24, 18:36

If the point is that we should not go in half-assed if we are to go in at all, I agree. Beyond that I'm almost as lost as han.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 19:36

The Pakistan/Afghan war is tough. Clearly we are never going in full force, never.

How we define victory, our goals or success seems cloudy at best.

In the meantime Military families suffer.

If the extreme options are:
1) 500,000 troops with full draft no college exemption
2) full pull out
3) other?



"In the coming days, he is expected to announce his broader rethinking of U.S. strategy and goals in the war, including changed tactics and lowered expectations for the difficult conflict."
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Posted 2009-March-24, 20:44

Big Whoopee. We are sending in 17K more troops into an area where we have no strategy, no objectives and no chance of a military "win".

In my book, that is nothing over which to rejoice.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 22:46

Winstonm, on Mar 24 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Big Whoopee.  We are sending in 17K more troops into an area where we have no strategy, no objectives and no chance of a military "win".

In my book, that is nothing over which to rejoice.

Winston:

My understanding, perhaps wrong, is our objective is we do not want attacks launched from Afghan/paki that result in 3000 dead in USA homeland.

This may be impossible.....given...cheap nukes...super cheap bio
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Posted 2009-March-25, 03:48

Hey Winston, you read "real men don't eat quiche"? It's a great book!
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Posted 2009-March-25, 07:49

mike777, on Mar 24 2009, 11:46 PM, said:

Winstonm, on Mar 24 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Big Whoopee.  We are sending in 17K more troops into an area where we have no strategy, no objectives and no chance of a military "win".

In my book, that is nothing over which to rejoice.

Winston:

My understanding, perhaps wrong, is our objective is we do not want attacks launched from Afghan/paki that result in 3000 dead in USA homeland.

This may be impossible.....given...cheap nukes...super cheap bio

Whats a few more (hundred, thousand, million, billion) deaths in a world where we have so many to spare?

Say that the US sent troops to Darfur to protect the genocide victims and to punish the Sudanese government for their transgressions.....what? sovereignty issues you say?

How about the US sent troops to the Brazilian rainforest to stop poachers and subsistence farmers from destroying the rainforest eco-system (and the earth's lungs as it were).

Or maybe they send their divisions into Colombia to root out the drug lords and destroy the coca plants in the fields?


I guess that someone has to protect the opium supply in Afghanistan...
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Posted 2009-March-25, 11:01

mike777, on Mar 24 2009, 11:46 PM, said:

Winstonm, on Mar 24 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Big Whoopee.  We are sending in 17K more troops into an area where we have no strategy, no objectives and no chance of a military "win".

In my book, that is nothing over which to rejoice.

Winston:

My understanding, perhaps wrong, is our objective is we do not want attacks launched from Afghan/paki that result in 3000 dead in USA homeland.

This may be impossible.....given...cheap nukes...super cheap bio

If Pakistan is lost, we are speaking about real nukes
(oppossite the "real" nukes of Irak) in the hand of
peoble, which may or may not use those weapons,
and some of those wont care, if they die in the process
of using those

So, we dont talk about only 3000 dead in USA homeland,
we talk about a serious worldwide thread.

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