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#1 User is offline   david_c 

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Posted 2009-February-28, 08:17

Scoring: MP

LHO opens 1♠, partner doubles, RHO bids 1NT.

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Posted 2009-February-28, 08:24

4♥ ?
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Posted 2009-February-28, 09:18

4♥... I don't see any alternative.
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Posted 2009-February-28, 18:02

agree with the above.
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Posted 2009-February-28, 19:06

OK, maybe it's too obvious then. Turns out that 4♥ has four top losers and opps having nothing on; I was worried I might have done too much.
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Posted 2009-February-28, 22:52

What's wrong with 3H? This is NV MP's, LHO has opened and RHO has responded and we have a stiff Q.
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Posted 2009-February-28, 22:59

We usually have 11♥ between us. I have to go for 4♥ inspite of the 1NT bid.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 00:51

For whatever it's worth, I would bid only 3♥. Did the first three posters actually construct a variety of hands that partner would pass 3♥ with? I think you will find that game is usually quite bad, the only times it is good is when partner has a strong diamond holding.

If your argument is that we should bid 4♥ to put pressure on LHO, I don't think it will work frequently enough to justify 4♥.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 03:12

david_c, on Mar 1 2009, 02:06 AM, said:

Turns out that 4♥ has four top losers and opps having nothing on

What did partner have? Not being able to make 4♥ isn't such a surprise, but it seems unlucky to find that they can't make 3♠. I'd be more worried that they could make 4♠, and that my 4♥ might push them into it.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 04:57

gnasher, on Mar 1 2009, 10:12 AM, said:

david_c, on Mar 1 2009, 02:06 AM, said:

Turns out that 4♥ has four top losers and opps having nothing on

What did partner have? Not being able to make 4♥ isn't such a surprise, but it seems unlucky to find that they can't make 3♠. I'd be more worried that they could make 4♠, and that my 4♥ might push them into it.

Partner had something like

♠ xx
♥ Qxx
♦ AKQx
♣ KJxx

and I suppose LHO must have been 6133.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 03:05

I had bid 3 ♥, partner will often raise. He surely would with his given hand, so I would play 4 ♥ -1 too.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 04:45

david_c, on Mar 1 2009, 10:57 AM, said:

Partner had something like

♠ xx
♥ Qxx
♦ AKQx
♣ KJxx

Its hard to construct a hand with more wasted values, yet we only went 1 off (and I assume they made a decent defence, because I have made this contracts once in a while :)), kinda revealng IMO.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 05:12

4♥ is canonical. Other bids are mastermindings.
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