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#1 User is offline   DrDouble 

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  Posted 2009-February-17, 03:45

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Most pairs ended up in Hearts contract which was best. I ended up in diamonds. Can some1 explain how u could arrive at a Hearts Contract please? Beginner here.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 08:34

If north open weak 2 in hearts its over.

If 3 passes to south it gets complicated. I would bid 1♦-2♥showing a very weak hand with 6 hearts.

If it goes 1♦-1♥-2♣, again I would bid 2♥ with north and play in hearts.

Only if the bidding starts pass-1♦-1♥-3♦ will the final contract be in diamonds.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 08:47

I'm assuming there will be 3 passes to South who opens 1♦.
My auction would go something like
p - p - p - 1♦
1♠ - X - 2♠ - 3♣
p - 3♥ - p - 4♥.

X was negative, intending to bid my hearts after partner's rebid showing a hand with 6+♥ and not enough to make a 2/1.
When partner then bids 3♣ and not a X, he most likely doesn't have 3♥ (lack of takeout/support double, if you play that) and so his shape is most likely 1264 or 1255 or 1165. Since the former two shapes is more likely, I'm going to bid 3♥.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 20:23

Fluffy, on Feb 17 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

If north open weak 2 in hearts its over.

If 3 passes to south it gets complicated. I would bid 1♦-2♥showing a very weak hand with 6 hearts.

If it goes 1♦-1♥-2♣, again I would bid 2♥ with north and play in hearts.

Only if the bidding starts pass-1♦-1♥-3♦ will the final contract be in diamonds.

I was North and I play Weak 2's with 6-9 points and a good 6 card suit, which is pretty well standard @ my club. That's y I think nearly every1 else ended in Hearts. However I had simply forgotten about Weak openings. Thanks all 4 ur input.

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Posted 2009-February-17, 20:40

DrDouble, on Feb 18 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Feb 17 2009, 09:34 AM, said:

If north open weak 2 in hearts its over.

If 3 passes to south it gets complicated. I would bid 1♦-2♥showing a very weak hand with 6 hearts.

If it goes 1♦-1♥-2♣, again I would bid 2♥ with north and play in hearts.

Only if the bidding starts pass-1♦-1♥-3♦ will the final contract be in diamonds.

I was North and I play Weak 2's with 6-9 points and a good 6 card suit, which is pretty well standard @ my club. That's y I think nearly every1 else ended in Hearts. However I had simply forgotten about Weak openings. Thanks all 4 ur input.

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That is not quite the end of the matter.

It is fairly standard to not open a weak two with a side four-card major. Although a style where you do open with 2♥ is played by some. However it is a matter you should discuss in advance with your partner.
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Posted 2009-February-17, 21:45

Andy's auction should get you there.

As for opening a weak 2 vulnerable with the weakish suit and 4♠ I don't do it even at MP.

Just too much to lose or miss and a bit too little to gain.
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