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Poll: Overcall (11 member(s) have cast votes)

Overcall

  1. 1D (10 votes [90.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.91%

  2. 1H (1 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  3. DBL (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   H_KARLUK 

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Posted 2008-December-30, 17:38

Scoring: IMP

P P 1♣
Whatever you call North passes and your partner bids 1♠. What's your rebid and why?

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Posted 2008-December-30, 17:47

Hmm. I would pass 1♣.
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Posted 2008-December-30, 17:50

I pass 1♣ as well (I wonder why that's not a poll option.) Usually I will get to double spades on the next round. When partner balances with 1♠ I'll try 2NT.
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Posted 2008-December-30, 17:51

Hi,

I would have passed.

Assuming I dont find a Pass card, some claim,
that happens more often, I would go with 1D.

Over 1S from p, I can bid 1NT, which showes
my hand pretty well.

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Posted 2008-December-30, 17:54

After 1♣ pp 1♠ it is 1NT or 2NT. With my regular partner, I would bid 1NT, since we open 1♠ light in a precision context. Playing standard I would let partner's opening style decide.
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Posted 2008-December-30, 18:07

I'll try one d, pass is close.
Now I will rebid 2nt over partner's free bid of one spade over my 1d bid.
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Posted 2008-December-31, 05:21

If I read this right, I might try 1♦ over 1♣, and then 1NT over pard's 1♠.
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Posted 2008-December-31, 05:39

Pass then 2NT shows a ~14 count with short spades and stoppers.
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Posted 2008-December-31, 07:24

agree with Nuno.

To brian: Do you mean 2NT can't have 2 spades?
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Posted 2008-December-31, 08:34

It can have 2. Sorry, by short I mean not 3+ card support. Bad choice of words. :P
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Posted 2008-December-31, 09:32

pass is kibd of obvious to me and now I cannot bid 2 NT with my regular partner, because this would be a spade raise. So I go with 2 Club followed by 2 NT to show this hand.
With a pick up, I pass and bid 2 NT later.
In a "you must bid anytime you have 12+ HCPs tourney," I had invent a 1 Diamond call.
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Posted 2008-December-31, 11:30

I'm a passer here
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Posted 2008-December-31, 12:45

jdonn, on Dec 30 2008, 11:50 PM, said:

I pass 1♣ as well (I wonder why that's not a poll option.) Usually I will get to double spades on the next round. When partner balances with 1♠ I'll try 2NT.

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Posted 2008-December-31, 13:02

FrancesHinden, on Dec 31 2008, 01:45 PM, said:

jdonn, on Dec 30 2008, 11:50 PM, said:

I pass 1♣ as well (I wonder why that's not a poll option.) Usually I will get to double spades on the next round. When partner balances with 1♠ I'll try 2NT.

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As to why: despite the misfit, we have strong positional values, and, absent an unlikely spade lead, if partner can raise to game, we will be able to play the hand almost double-dummy. RHO is not only subject to finesses, but also very vulnerable to end-game positions.
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Posted 2008-December-31, 22:41

H_KARLUK, on Dec 30 2008, 06:38 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

P P 1♣
Whatever you call North passes and your partner bids 1♠. What's your rebid and why?
IMO
  • Over RHO's 1♣, 1♦ = 10, _P = 9, 1♥ = 5.
  • After partner's 1♠, 1N = 10, _P = 6

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Posted 2009-January-01, 06:11

Pass
(With my regular partner I play that 1NT here shows H and D and I would bid that...This method is giving a solution for all hands that are difficult to bid otherwise....but it probably gives issues for all hands that are easy otherwise :) )
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Posted 2009-January-01, 14:03

I'm getting in the lead director while I can do so cheaply - 1D. I will bid 1N over 1S.

If I pass the auction can easily be at 2S or even 3S next time it back to me.
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Posted 2009-January-01, 14:34

Winstonm, on Jan 1 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I'm getting in the lead director while I can do so cheaply - 1D. I will bid 1N over 1S.

If I pass the auction can easily be at 2S or even 3S next time it back to me.

I want it to be at 2♠ when it comes back to me so I can double. That is the ideal situation.
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Posted 2009-January-01, 14:49

jdonn, on Jan 1 2009, 03:34 PM, said:

Winstonm, on Jan 1 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I'm getting in the lead director while I can do so cheaply - 1D.  I will bid 1N over 1S.

If I pass the auction can easily be at 2S or even 3S next time it back to me.

I want it to be at 2♠ when it comes back to me so I can double. That is the ideal situation.

I have a problem grasping your internal logic - in another thread you wanted to keep the bidding open because the advantage to limited openings is in competition and disrupting the opponents, yet now in another thread you sit and wait until the 3-level, after the opponents have demonstrated their hands strengths and fits, to get involved.

Is this kind of like Alice in Wonderland - a word (in this case idea) means just what I say it means and no more?
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Posted 2009-January-01, 15:24

You do seem to have trouble grasping the logic. :) But you clearly misunderstood my point in the other thread. In particular I was saying, it is NOT the advantage of limited openings that you get to pass the opening bid on stronger hands than in standard. Even if Shenken said it was. The advantage I referred to had nothing to do with the auction given in the problem, which was exactly my point.
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