Long or short?
#1
Posted 2008-December-13, 23:41
T95
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AKJ83
White vs Red, IMPs
As dealer, you open 1S, partner raises to 2S
No agreements, but you assume partner would take 3C as natural and 4D as a splinter.
What is your call?
#3
Posted 2008-December-14, 01:22
#4
Posted 2008-December-14, 08:29
-P.J. Painter.
#5
Posted 2008-December-14, 09:41
#6
Posted 2008-December-14, 11:19
If the choice is between 3C and 4D.
Personnaly I would give up chasing the
rainbow and bid 4S, but there are lucky
days.
3C has the adv. that you can give partner
a 2nd chance to bid.
Besides you hear if he has min or max.,
which is also something you need to hear.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#7
Posted 2008-December-14, 11:39
#9
Posted 2008-December-14, 13:30
- hrothgar
#10
Posted 2008-December-14, 14:21
#11
Posted 2008-December-14, 20:39
#12
Posted 2008-December-14, 22:23
P_Marlowe, on Dec 14 2008, 12:19 PM, said:
Agree with 3♣ for this reason. 4♦ puts tremendous pressure on partner to cuebid with no trump honors. We really only need ♠xxxx, ♥A, ♣Q to make a slam.
#13
Posted 2008-December-15, 02:20
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#14
Posted 2008-December-15, 09:44
#15
Posted 2008-December-19, 15:03
MarkDean, on Dec 14 2008, 12:41 AM, said:
White vs Red, IMPs
As dealer, you open 1S, partner raises to 2S
No agreements, but you assume partner would take 3C as natural and 4D as a splinter.
What is your call?
I do not like making splinters with a wide open side suit.
If Responder has 2 good cards, We have five level safety. If they have 3, We belong in slam. I'm going to pattern out my hand.
1S-2S;3C-any;4C-any;4H or 5H -??
Is my initial plan.
#16
Posted 2008-December-19, 16:45
I am the one who needs information, not partner. Therefore, the telling bid of 4♦, while it may elicit a 4♥ response, is not right. Partner does not need to know about my diamond shortness, and neither do the opponents.
Also, you do not necessarily need the ♥A to make a slam. xxxx KQx xxx Qxx or even xxxx KQx xxxx xx is enough for reasonable play for slam. The ♥A would be better, but I will find out about it just as easily (perhaps more easily) by bidding 3♣ and then bidding 4♣ or 4♦ on the next round.
#18
Posted 2008-December-20, 14:12
#19
Posted 2008-December-20, 14:16
foo, on Dec 19 2008, 09:03 PM, said:
MarkDean, on Dec 14 2008, 12:41 AM, said:
White vs Red, IMPs
As dealer, you open 1S, partner raises to 2S
No agreements, but you assume partner would take 3C as natural and 4D as a splinter.
What is your call?
I do not like making splinters with a wide open side suit.
If Responder has 2 good cards, We have five level safety. If they have 3, We belong in slam. I'm going to pattern out my hand.
1S-2S;3C-any;4C-any;4H or 5H -??
Is my initial plan.
This is the same problem. If I rebid 3C and then bid the club suit again, my partner, being smarter than me, will figure out that I am 6-5 in the black suits. Another picture I don't want to paint.
#20
Posted 2008-December-20, 14:28
If partner moves over this he will not have much wasted in diamonds. Slam seems okay opposite the ♥AK, or ♥A+♦A, or ♥KQ+♣Q, and so forth. I don't see any issue with having a "wide open suit" -- partner isn't going to move past 4♠ if he has lots of junk in diamonds and since he cannot have any spade honors or any club honors other than the queen, he basically has to have heart cards to make a positive move here.
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