after 1S open (5+S 12-21) and 2H response (GF with 5+H), does
3m by opener always promise extra? if yes, what kind of extra?
Thanks,
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3m over 1S-2H
#2
Posted 2008-December-08, 16:08
I have played both styles -
1) It shows no extras.
Advantage: A rebid of a major shows 6 cards.
Disadvantage: forcing possibly a level to high without determining the level
2) Bidding 3 of a minor shows extra playing strength
Disadvantage: Rebidding 2 of a Major is the catch-all bid and does not describe shape.
Advantage: Responder has an easier to time describing his hand.
I have moved towards #2, but I still think style #1 is very playable. I sometimes wonder what the correct action is holding two small spades opposite.
1) It shows no extras.
Advantage: A rebid of a major shows 6 cards.
Disadvantage: forcing possibly a level to high without determining the level
2) Bidding 3 of a minor shows extra playing strength
Disadvantage: Rebidding 2 of a Major is the catch-all bid and does not describe shape.
Advantage: Responder has an easier to time describing his hand.
I have moved towards #2, but I still think style #1 is very playable. I sometimes wonder what the correct action is holding two small spades opposite.
#3
Posted 2008-December-08, 16:09
Depends on agreements, I prefer it shows extras. The advantages occur when you can bid 3m showing extras, the disadvantages occur when you rebid 2S which is less well defined.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#5
Posted 2008-December-08, 17:02
Agree that's a style matter and that style 2) is technically superior, for a lot of reasons, some of which already mentioned.
Style 1) is playable within the context of a limited, 11-15, opener.
Style 1) is playable within the context of a limited, 11-15, opener.
#6
Posted 2008-December-08, 17:04
whereagles, on Dec 8 2008, 06:02 PM, said:
Style 1) is playable within the context of a limited, 11-15, opener.
Agree, Meckwell seem to manage.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#7
Posted 2008-December-11, 12:38
Hi,
a matter of partnership agreement, but my suggestion is,
that it should.
Each player has to limit his hand a sometime, and the time
should be not too late.
If you dont, than opener reached the 3 level, and responder
will have a guee, if he should make a move toward slam or
not, ... and you have the add. scenario, that you did not
discover a fit yet.
With kind regards
Marlowe
a matter of partnership agreement, but my suggestion is,
that it should.
Each player has to limit his hand a sometime, and the time
should be not too late.
If you dont, than opener reached the 3 level, and responder
will have a guee, if he should make a move toward slam or
not, ... and you have the add. scenario, that you did not
discover a fit yet.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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