[Quarky]

What are some common ways to play the two que bids available when LHO opens, your pard overcalls, and RHO bids a new suit?

For example, LHO opens: (1C) - 1H - (1S) - ?

How are 2C and 2S in this position played?

How about sequences where RHO bids a new suit at 2nd level and your cue bids force the bidding to 3rd level?
(1C) - 1H - (2D), what are 3C and 3D now?

What about (1H) - 1S - (2C) -
now you can bid 2H, which still allows pard to bid 2S, or 3C, which forces to 3S. What should the meanings of 2H and 3C be? Keep in mind that in the sequences where RHO bids at 2 level, opps are now expected to have at least around 22 combined HCP.

Thanks

[han]

In the first sequence I'd play 2C = 3-card raise, 9+ points, 2S = 4-card limit raise or better, 3C = mixed raise.

In the second sequence I'd play 3C = limit raise or better, 3D = mixed raise.

[jdonn]

han, on Dec 11 2008, 10:28 PM, said:

In the second sequence I'd play 3C = limit raise or better, 3D = mixed raise.

By what rule do you define 3♦ as a mixed raise on the second one? Or maybe a different way of asking the same question is how does your partner know that's how you mean it (given that I assume you haven't discussed the exact auction before)?

[han]

First cue limit, second cue mixed when there is no jump cue available in the first suit that won't force us to game.

Assuming that 2D is forcing I'd like to use 2NT as a raise as well so that you can distinguish 3-card and 4-card limit raises.

[jdonn]

han, on Dec 11 2008, 10:39 PM, said:

First cue limit, second cue mixed.

Assuming that 2D is forcing I'd like to use 2NT as a raise as well so that you can distinguish 3-card and 4-card limit raises.

That makes sense, assuming you also mean "when there is no jump cue available in the first suit that won't force us to game" or something like that.

[kenrexford]

I generally play 2♣ as a raise of partner (as if normal) and 2♠ as a power diamond bid (super-Snapdragon?). Not sure that makes sense, but that's what I was taught by some people who probably know better than me what to do in auctions like this. Of course, they may be insane. The fact that they play with me on their team suggests insanity. LOL