Forcing or not?
#1
Posted 2004-April-19, 17:46
1♣ - 1♠ - Dbl* - pass
1NT - pass - 2♥ - pass
???
The double promisses 4+♥ or 9+HCP 'any' hand.
Is this bid forcing, and how many ♥s does it promisse??
[EDIT] Remark: 1♣ - (1♠) - 2♥ would be NOT forcing
#2
Posted 2004-April-19, 17:54
About the stengh i think its better player as limit 9-11(12) or something like that which isnt forcing, but i dont usually play negative free bids.
#3
Posted 2004-April-19, 17:56
Ben
#4
Posted 2004-April-19, 17:59
inquiry, on Apr 19 2004, 06:56 PM, said:
Ben
He mean when playing negative free bids, then 2h is 0-8 and not forcing.
#5
Posted 2004-April-19, 18:00
-ve free bids, then you could have originally forced with 2H so this bid is now non forcing.
Ron
#6
Posted 2004-April-19, 18:28
Mike
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
#7
Posted 2004-April-19, 19:31
#8
Posted 2004-April-20, 03:05
#9
Posted 2004-April-20, 03:21
#10
Posted 2004-April-20, 03:39
Gerben47, on Apr 20 2004, 04:21 AM, said:
ofcouse it does, in Free's question.
#11
Posted 2004-April-20, 04:29
Probably some people don´t play it 7-11, so again the question goes to what would 2♥ on first round mean .
#12
Posted 2004-April-20, 06:54
Fluffy, on Apr 20 2004, 05:29 AM, said:
Probably some people don´t play it 7-11, so again the question goes to what would 2♥ on first round mean .
This question is answered in Free's first message.
It shows 8 or less hcp.
#13
Posted 2004-April-20, 07:11
I've seen different treatments regarding whether a double followed by a new suit is game forcing or not.
#14
Posted 2004-April-20, 08:56
#15
Posted 2004-April-22, 00:36
Despite my above opinion there is something unclear in situation and need some general agreement with p, because cue bid is available as GF. When you already have one bid for GF, is it means you can use other as NF. In example you can play: 2♥: less than inv NF; dbl, later 2♥: inv, NF; dbl, later 2♠(cue), next 3♥: GF.
Misho
#16
Posted 2004-April-24, 15:21
Gerben47, on Apr 20 2004, 04:21 AM, said:
A direct 2♥ shows 4/5- 8 HCP, normally.
You want to get lower that's fine but upper limit is mostly 8/9 HCP.
But the question is still, this is as basic as it can get when you play Neg.Freebids, and you really have not talked about it ? That's very scary......
Mike
so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”