[kgr]

eg.:
(1♣)-1♠-(p)-2♣
What is the minimum you normally have for 2♣?
What is the minimum the overcaller needs to bid 3♠ or anything else?
If overcaller rebids 2♠ what is the minimum for his partner to bid 3♠?
(1♣)-1♠-(p)-2♣
(p)-2♠-(p)-3♠

[han]

For 2C: mild invite.
For 2S: no game interest opposite any invite.
Other bid: natural, game interest opposite invite.
For bidding on after 2S: Better than invite.

With invite I mean a hand that would be invitational opposite an opening.

[kgr]

han, on Nov 22 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

For 2C: mild invite.
For 2S: no game interest opposite any invite.
Other bid: natural, game interest opposite invite.
For bidding on after 2S: Better than invite.

With invite I mean a hand that would be invitational opposite an opening.

...To bid anything else then 2♠ you will need a good opening?

[Codo]

yes

[gwnn]

I'm sure many of us would bid 2♥ on

AKJxx
QJxx
x
xxx

which doesn't really constitute a "good opening"

[kgr]

Scoring: IMP

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P-(1C)-1S-(P)
2C-(P)-3S-(P)
4S-All Pass
 
What do you think of this bidding?
 
If South only bids 2S iso 3S, should North then re-invite with 3S and should S accept?
 
(I tried to reconstruct the hands like it happened at the table, but I can't imagine that I didn't bid a weak 2S with the S hand. So the hands were probably not exactly as given. I know I had 8/9 HCP and 12 distribution pts. So assume you play strong jump overcalls and you started with 1S)

[P_Marlowe]

#1 To make the cue, you need basically the same
values, you would need for an invite opposite a
opening.
In other words, if you would invite facing a opener,
make the cue, otherwise not.

#2 A min opener.
The 3S simply says, partner I have a king more than
min, i.e. a min. opener, is this enough?

#3 Sound opening values.
Basically, you want to ask partner do you have a near
opener or complete garbage.
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#1 The cue is fine, in the given instance the cue promises a fit.

#2 I am not sure, I like 3S, facing a passed partner chances for
game are remote, you will only make game, if the hands fit
well, if you want to make a move (reasonable), bid 3C.
Since partner is a passed hand, 3S should promise sound
opening values, since partner may stretch to make the cue.

#3 Bidding 4S is fine, you have super maximum for the bidding,
keeping in mind, that partner has to play you for far less.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[gwnn]

i think 1♠ is much better than 2♠ on your hand, you don't need to have agreed SJO to bid it.