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the other two suits

Poll: your call? (31 member(s) have cast votes)

your call?

  1. pass (1 votes [3.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

  2. double (18 votes [58.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.06%

  3. 2H (12 votes [38.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.71%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-October-08, 09:43

Scoring: IMP

p-p-1♦-(1♠)-?

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Posted 2008-October-08, 09:45

Double. I would say that this is a fairly normal action with 5 hearts and less than game invitational values.
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Posted 2008-October-08, 09:45

2♥, this is routine, cause I'm a PH.
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Posted 2008-October-08, 09:50

Sorry, auction was wrong. it was p-p-1♦-1♠ and not 1♣-1♠ as originally posted
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Posted 2008-October-08, 09:51

I think this is a minimum but very normal 2♥ bid as a passed hand. It's just too likely a spade raise is coming so I want to show the fifth heart, and that would also leave me very well placed to bid 3♣ next.
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Posted 2008-October-08, 10:20

Sorry. Didn't notice that I was a passed hand.

2♥.

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Posted 2008-October-08, 12:03

Agree with 2♥ here, as a passed hand.
It's a dead minimum regaring high card strength, but the suit is good and I've got a nice side suit too. We might easily have game vs an ordinary opening.
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Posted 2008-October-09, 07:17

Unpassed hand Dbl. Passed hand 2H.
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Posted 2008-October-09, 08:11

Ok, I'm being dumb here... why does it matter if you're a passed hand or not?
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Posted 2008-October-09, 09:48

Ant590, on Oct 9 2008, 09:11 AM, said:

Ok, I'm being dumb here... why does it matter if you're a passed hand or not?

2♥ NF > 2♥ forcing
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Posted 2008-October-09, 10:08

Double. Yes I notice we are a passed hand. Consider this:

2♥ only caters to a 5-3, and pard will sometimes bid 2♥ himself.

Double brings clubs into the picture. Double allows us to play 2♦.

I would need a great 8 count to make a 2♥ call. Aceless and a possible misfit? Er no.
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Posted 2008-October-09, 10:23

pclayton, on Oct 9 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

2♥ only caters to a 5-3, and pard will sometimes bid 2♥ himself.

- He usually won't.
- If he passes with 3, you stop lower than if you double and he bids 2♥ which I assume you are raising.
- If he passes with a doubleton, you are probably in a pretty good contract, especially compared to if he would have bid 2♦ over a double. So it caters to more than a 5-3.

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Double brings clubs into the picture.

It does? I think we are more likely to find clubs if I bid 2♥, since 2♠ p p 3♣ is very likely.

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Double allows us to play 2♦.

This is a good thing?

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I would need a great 8 count to make a 2♥ call. Aceless and a possible misfit? Er no.

Every hand that has not yet located a fit is a possible misfit. I like my odds of finding a fit when I'm 5-5 though.

I'm keeping the comments bridge related, but I think you're really missing the boat on this one.
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Posted 2008-October-09, 10:31

I thought the original question was more interesting, can you uncorrect it please?
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