BBO Discussion Forums: What to do? - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

What to do?

#1 User is offline   the hog 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-March-07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Laos
  • Interests:Wagner and Bridge

Posted 2008-September-16, 19:02

This was sent to me by a friend.

You hold at Imps, vul vs not:

x
xx
AKQxxxxx
xx

(1NT) P (3NT) ?

What action do you take. Fwiw you have the agreement that x calls for an unusual lead, not necessarily a Major. However the bidding is unusual in itself - you have only 3 cards in the Ms, pd did not bid and opps did not use Stayman.

Would it make any differenc if you were playing MPs?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
0

#2 User is offline   mike777 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 18,173
  • Joined: 2003-October-07
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2008-September-16, 20:19

double
0

#3 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2008-September-16, 20:30

Partner can easily have 9 cards in the majors at these colors (given that he is weak), lefty can have 8 and righty can have 6 or even 7. So the lack of major suit bids is not something to worry about, there is one major suit card to spare.

I'm a little hesitant to double because partner is fairly likely to be void in diamonds.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
0

#4 User is offline   the hog 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-March-07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Laos
  • Interests:Wagner and Bridge

Posted 2008-September-17, 00:06

han, on Sep 17 2008, 09:30 AM, said:

Partner can easily have 9 cards in the majors at these colors (given that he is weak), lefty can have 8 and righty can have 6 or even 7. So the lack of major suit bids is not something to worry about, there is one major suit card to spare.

I'm a little hesitant to double because partner is fairly likely to be void in diamonds.

What I meant by the bidding being unusual was that pd is marked with lots of Mj cards. Should you X. Is the risk of a D void too high?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
0

#5 User is offline   andrei 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 333
  • Joined: 2008-March-31

Posted 2008-September-17, 08:49

I guess it is very possible the 1NT bidder is 4423, the 3NT bidder 4333, leaving partner with 4405.

I would bid 4 at IMPs and pass at MPs.
Don't argue with a fool. He has a rested brain
Before internet age you had a suspicion there are lots of "not-so-smart" people on the planet. Now you even know their names.
0

#6 User is offline   jdonn 

  • - - T98765432 AQT8
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 15,085
  • Joined: 2005-June-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Las Vegas, NV

Posted 2008-September-17, 09:02

I would bid 4. Either double or bid might chase them into a major suit game (maybe rho was messing around with a solid six card major?) but in that case I'll be on lead, which is all the sweeter if partner has a void.

Also, consider that this might make on a good day, reflexively doubled by certain opponents...
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
0

#7 User is offline   nige1 

  • 5-level belongs to me
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,128
  • Joined: 2004-August-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Glasgow Scotland
  • Interests:Poems Computers

Posted 2008-September-18, 04:12

The_Hog, on Sep 16 2008, 08:02 PM, said:

This was sent to me by a friend. You hold at Imps, vul vs not:
x xx AKQxxxxx xx
(1NT) P (3NT) ?
What action do you take. Fwiw you have the agreement that x calls for an unusual lead, not necessarily a Major. However the bidding is unusual in itself - you have only 3 cards in the Ms, pd did not bid and opps did not use Stayman.
Would it make any differenc if you were playing MPs?

After (1N) - (3N) ??
  • The idea that double should show a a long suit and partner must guess which -- seems flawed to me -- especially if that long suiit is a minor -- becase dummy will often have a log suit too -- so that partner will often guess wrong. I suppose, such a double does have a fair chance of working here, because diamonds is almost certain to be partner's shortest suit -- if he has any at all.
  • Better, IMO, is to agree that double shows a specific suit. In my regular partnership, double, here, asks for a lead -- "A double diamond works wonders" -- as the Toucan proclaimed in the advert.

0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users