[cnszsun]

Scoring: IMP

1♥-(2♥)-??

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What's your plan?

[pclayton]

2♠. 4♣ is fitted for me, and not a splinter, but I think I'd like to give LHO a chance to double or even raise spades.

[jtfanclub]

I'll bet I'm the only person on the planet whose first instict is to pass.

I want to know what minor they have, and I'm perfectly fine bidding to the 5 level in exchange for that information. Who knows, maybe I'll get a nice bid in next round.

[matmat]

Jlall, on Aug 17 2008, 10:06 PM, said:

jtfanclub, on Aug 17 2008, 09:15 PM, said:

I'll bet I'm the only person on the planet whose first instict is to pass.

edited.

damn it.

[rogerclee]

jtfanclub, on Aug 17 2008, 07:15 PM, said:

I'll bet I'm the only person on the planet whose first instict is to pass.

I want to know what minor they have, and I'm perfectly fine bidding to the 5 level in exchange for that information. Who knows, maybe I'll get a nice bid in next round.

I don't know if you say these things just to make people go WOW or if you think they are actually true.

[cnszsun]

In fact, i believe it can't be too wrong if i follow the rule of preempting to the limit at first chance.
So, i bid 5♥. LHO bid 6♣, and partner doubled, what now? This is a more challenging question to me than original 5♥.

[cherdano]

Heh, I think the second part is easy, I have a lot more defense than 5♥ promised.
I would have bid 2♠ to start with.

[P_Marlowe]

4H.

The last time I held such a hand in a similar situation, my partner
strongly requested that I bid 2S, I am kind enough to follow his
wishes.

A possible alternative would be to bid 3D as transfer shopwing
a contructive raise,w ith the plan to bid 4H later.
As it is, I think 2S promises more defence, so would prefer a
direct 4H bid or a constructive raise.
Add to this the fact, that some play, that a 2S bid sets up a
forcing pass, at least on the 5 level.

If they bid over 4H, I still have the option to to show add.
defence with a double.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[andy_h]

I would bid 2S. We have a great potential of a slam.

[FrancesHinden]

cnszsun, on Aug 18 2008, 06:53 AM, said:

In fact, i believe it can't be too wrong if i follow the rule of preempting to the limit at first chance.
So, i bid 5♥. LHO bid 6♣, and partner doubled, what now? This is a more challenging question to me than original 5♥.

The second question is much easier.
Having decided to bid 5H (which I don't know if I agree with or not), there's clearly no point in doing anything except passing partner's double.

[P_Marlowe]

cnszsun, on Aug 18 2008, 12:53 AM, said:

In fact, i believe it can't be too wrong if i follow the rule of preempting to the limit at first chance.
So, i bid 5♥. LHO bid 6♣, and partner doubled, what now? This is a more challenging question to me than original 5♥.

Pass.

Did you say, that you believe that it is best to
preempt to the limit at onece?
If youd did this, there is a other rule, which states,
if you have preempted pass for ever afterwards.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: And I definitely do not agree with 5H, why go to the 5 level?
You dont know, if they can make anything, if they are willing to
sac. and so on.

[jtfanclub]

rogerclee, on Aug 18 2008, 12:41 AM, said:

I don't know if you say these things just to make people go WOW or if you think they are actually true.

Which is the WOW, that I seriously considered passing, or that I think I'd be alone in doing so?

[pclayton]

jtfanclub, on Aug 18 2008, 06:39 AM, said:

rogerclee, on Aug 18 2008, 12:41 AM, said:

I don't know if you say these things just to make people go WOW or if you think they are actually true.

Which is the WOW, that I seriously considered passing, or that I think I'd be alone in doing so?

I considered passing first to see if LHO takes a spade preference, but I don't like it because we won't find out that much anyway.

Plus its masterminding.

[jtfanclub]

pclayton, on Aug 18 2008, 10:19 AM, said:

jtfanclub, on Aug 18 2008, 06:39 AM, said:

rogerclee, on Aug 18 2008, 12:41 AM, said:

I don't know if you say these things just to make people go WOW or if you think they are actually true.

Which is the WOW, that I seriously considered passing, or that I think I'd be alone in doing so?

I considered passing first to see if LHO takes a spade preference, but I don't like it because we won't find out that much anyway.

Plus its masterminding.

Thanks.

When I say "I think I'm the only one who", I don't mean that literally. I mean "I know that good players won't make this call, but I don't understand why". But then, if I say that I may end up insulting good players who do make the bid. Or at least consider it.

[skjaeran]

I'm splintering 4♣, showing a void in my methods. I've got a little more playing strength than partner will expect. I'm planning to cuebid 5♦ next. Having denied GF values (high cards), partner will have a pretty good impression of my hand then.

[cnszsun]

Sadly, result is 6Cx +1. Maybe my partner could have passed, then i would bid 6H for sure. His hand is AK QJxxx Jxxx Jx. I'm still not convinced by some posters' opinion that my hand is more defensive than 5♥, but maybe i'm worng.

[Echognome]

I would have never doubled with your partner's hand. The overtrick is a bit of a surprise, but still, I don't understand his double.

[cnszsun]

Echognome, on Aug 20 2008, 08:26 AM, said:

I would have never doubled with your partner's hand.  The overtrick is a bit of a surprise, but still, I don't understand his double.

2♥ bidder had 6♠s and 5♣s.