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'08 Spingold/Wagar Pool

#21 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2008-July-24, 03:10

http://www.acbl.org/...racket=spingold
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Posted 2008-July-24, 15:23

I am not sure they want to be congratulated, but cardsharp's team came close enough to scare Nickell - they lost by 19 IMPs over 64 boards.
http://thebeercard.b...econd-half.html

Great performance!
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Posted 2008-July-26, 08:07

Well, just thought I'd post an update on the scores to date...

Right now, cherdano is in a pretty commanding lead (about 20 points on paper), but he has maxed out his points. His last 'live' teams in the Spingold - Gromov and Weed - were his picks to lose in the semifinals. So, even if one of them goes on to win it won't be worth more than 6 points to him.

Currently in a solid 2nd is PeterGill, thanks in part to some solid picks in Wagar. In fact, Peter will score some serious points for his pick of the Cayne team.

655321 actually could win handily, given that he still has Meltzer, Gromov, and Weed as live picks.

More tomorrow.
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Posted 2008-July-28, 00:28

couple folks picked Gromov,
Congrats to you!
(and of course to THEM!)

and to JoshD won N A SWiss!!!
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Posted 2008-July-28, 07:53

Thanks to all who participated in the 2008 Spingold/Wagar Pool... Sorry for the delay!

As promised, here are the final standings:

1. cherdano (45pts)
2. hrothgar
3. NickRW
4. Peter Gill
5. HeavyDluxe
6. 655321

Congrats, Arend! Your picked a pretty middle-of-the-pack Spingold, but were powered victory by totally p0wning the Wagar picks.

A couple other notes, just for giggles:
The overall spread from winner to 6th place was 15pts.

If we were playing for the Spingold picks alone, hrothgar would be the runaway winner. He scored points for almost all his picks (only 'zeroing' on two) and backed the winning Gromov team for a whopping 24 pts by itself. If he entered an 'average' set of picks for the Wagar, he'd be the winner...

The 'total' spread was relatively tight between all pickers, so well done!

My closing thought would be that the weightings *might* be worth a little refinement for any future pools... But maybe I'm just being bitter!

Thanks all... And congrats to the winners. Next pool: Beijing?
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Posted 2008-July-28, 09:24

I think, it's the first year in the history of North American Championships in which both major team trophy's have been won exclusively by players from oversea, both by four handed teams.

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Posted 2008-July-28, 10:01

Aberlour10, on Jul 28 2008, 06:24 PM, said:

I think, it's the first year in the history of North American Championships in which both major team trophy's have been won exclusively by players from oversea, both by four handed teams.

Robert

I readily admit that I've ignored the Wagnar completely.

I was curious whether or not the winners of the Wagnar had a client playing for them. (My decision to select Gromov to win the Spingold was largely based on the fact that this was a strong team that wasn't bogged down by a sponsor)
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Posted 2008-July-28, 10:30

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Posted 2008-July-28, 10:49

hrothgar, on Jul 29 2008, 12:01 AM, said:

Aberlour10, on Jul 28 2008, 06:24 PM, said:

I think, it's the first year in the history of North American Championships in which both major team trophy's have been won exclusively by players from oversea, both by four handed teams.

Robert

I readily admit that I've ignored the Wagnar completely.

I was curious whether or not the winners of the Wagnar had a client playing for them. (My decision to select Gromov to win the Spingold was largely based on the fact that this was a strong team that wasn't bogged down by a sponsor)

The fact that they were only 4-handed didn't affect your decision? :P
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Posted 2008-July-28, 10:55

Rossoneri, on Jul 28 2008, 11:49 AM, said:

hrothgar, on Jul 29 2008, 12:01 AM, said:

Aberlour10, on Jul 28 2008, 06:24 PM, said:

I think, it's the first year in the history of North American Championships in which both major team trophy's have been won exclusively by players from oversea, both by four handed teams.

Robert

I readily admit that I've ignored the Wagnar completely.

I was curious whether or not the winners of the Wagnar had a client playing for them. (My decision to select Gromov to win the Spingold was largely based on the fact that this was a strong team that wasn't bogged down by a sponsor)

The fact that they were only 4-handed didn't affect your decision? :P

Were they playing in the morning side games?
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Posted 2008-August-06, 16:30

HeavyDluxe, on Jul 28 2008, 08:53 AM, said:

Congrats, Arend! Your picked a pretty middle-of-the-pack Spingold, but were powered victory by totally p0wning the Wagar picks.

I'm a little late here, but shouldn't there be some penalty for picking as the losing semi-finalists two teams (Westheimer & Simon) who played in the semi's and picking for second the team that played the winner in the semi's? :P
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