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To slam or not to slam

Poll: Your call? (28 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (24 votes [85.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.71%

  2. 6[CL] (4 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

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#1 User is offline   jchiu 

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Posted 2008-June-24, 22:59

Scoring: IMP

1♥ Dbl 4♥ 5♣
Pass to you


Barometer is on: you are down three IMPs with two normalish results and this board to go.
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Posted 2008-June-24, 23:11

Pass. You need a hell of alot to make 6, and if partner had what you need to make 6 he'd probably have bid it.

Besides, partner's 5♣ bid may have been based on trying to generate a swing. Why hang partner?
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Posted 2008-June-25, 00:08

I would pass. I have learned through (bad) experiences to give partner a lot of room in auctions like this. This hand in not hugely above average.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 00:13

Disagree with X fwiw, won't answer the actual problem since I was your opp.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 00:51

agree with your x 100%

now pass , you have bid your hand
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Posted 2008-June-25, 01:01

I think a 1♠ overcall is probably more common than X on this hand, since I'm not going to count my stiff K♥ as extra on offense. That said, if the other table sees

(1♥)-1♠-(4♥)-?

Will partner bid 5♣ on xx x KQx QT9xxxx or similar hands given you bid 1♠ and not X?
Will you reopen with a double if 4♥ passes back to you?

I think the answer to both of these is clearly no, and hence you may have already won the board finding a decent 5♣ Vul game over their 4♥ preempt.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 01:10

Know the hand. Disagree with x.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 01:11

Rob F, on Jun 25 2008, 02:01 AM, said:

Will partner bid 5♣ on xx x KQx QT9xxxx or similar hands given you bid 1♠ and not X?
Will you reopen with a double if 4♥ passes back to you?

I think the answer to both of these is clearly no, and hence you may have already won the board finding a decent 5♣ Vul game over their 4♥ preempt.

What? Of course you will reopen with a X over 4H if you overcall 1S...
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Posted 2008-June-25, 01:34

Pass.

I think there is a fair chance we are missing slam, but equally there is a good chance we are just off two Aces.

I would have bid one spade, devaluing the K♥ a little, and with a hand that looks very suitable for play in spades.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 01:50

Would have bid 1S instead. Now I pass.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-25, 06:18

Agree with 1S and pass.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 07:05

I would have overcalled 1♠. And it is not even a question of devaluing the ♥K. I don't want to make a takeout double on this shape. You have a good spade suit that can be bid conveniently. I don't want to prompt partner to get too active in diamonds when spades is likely to be the most likely game.

Having doubled and partner having bid 5♣, I pass. Not really a close decision.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 07:48

With 5 good ♠ I prefer to O/C 1♠ which is also devaluing the K of ♥.

I'll now pass 5♣ as I need to find the right cards in PD's hand to make and don't think he's favorite to hold them.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 09:39

Agree with 1♠/pass.
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Posted 2008-June-25, 12:01

Jlall, on Jun 25 2008, 08:13 AM, said:

Disagree with X fwiw, won't answer the actual problem since I was your opp.

Can you tell why you disagree with (Some weeks ago you made a post saying that there are some maxs for an overcall. I think that hand had 17 pts. So I'm surprised you are so clear about 1S here)
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Posted 2008-June-25, 13:19

kgr, on Jun 25 2008, 01:01 PM, said:

Jlall, on Jun 25 2008, 08:13 AM, said:

Disagree with X fwiw, won't answer the actual problem since I was your opp.

Can you tell why you disagree with (Some weeks ago you made a post saying that there are some maxs for an overcall. I think that hand had 17 pts. So I'm surprised you are so clear about 1S here)
thanks,
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I do not evaluate this hand to be as good as 18? Isn't that kind of self explanatory?
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  Posted 2008-June-26, 17:39

jchiu, on Jun 24 2008, 11:59 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♥ Dbl 4♥ 5♣
Pass to you
Barometer is on: you are down three IMPs with two normalish results and this board to go.

I don't know the hand. IMO
  • Prefer a 1♠ overcall to _X.
  • Now _P = 10, 6♣ = 5.

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