[MickyB]

(2♠) 2NT (3♠) - what's double now from either side?

What about after a multi? i.e. (2♦) 2NT (3♥)

[Impact]

Justin, Micky

The 2nd one is the easier since 3H presumably is correctable, the double should be takeout (as that is the hand which is passable by overcaller) in logic.

Logically the first auction advancer will virtually never hold a penalty double (unless overcaller/responder is/are on drugs) - whereas he is likely to hold a takeout hand...so the utility is to make advancer's double

(2S) 2NT (3S) X= takeout

Of course I can think of at least a couple of opponents for whom I would make a different agreement!!!

regards

[andy_h]

Jlall, on Jun 23 2008, 01:07 PM, said:

The first one is takeout by responder and penalty by overcaller.

I don't play against multi enough to know about the 2nd one.

ditto

[MickyB]

Ok, well the difference with multi is that, with an 18-count with Ax in their suit, you would double a weak two but start with 2NT over a multi. Not sure whether this hand should be acting again over 3H now.

[nige1]

MickyB, on Jun 22 2008, 09:27 PM, said:

(2♠) 2NT (3♠) - what's double now from either side?
What about after a multi? i.e. (2♦) 2NT (3♥)

Our agreement is that they are all optional - but mainly takeout - typically a doubleton in opponent's bid suit and 4 cards in the other major.

[gnasher]

MickyB, on Jun 23 2008, 04:12 PM, said:

Ok, well the difference with multi is that, with an 18-count with Ax in their suit, you would double a weak two but start with 2NT over a multi. Not sure whether this hand should be acting again over 3H now.

I think it should, so in the Multi auction a double by either hand should be takeout.