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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-June-16, 08:28

AQTxx
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Qx
QJTxxx

unfavorable 1st seat you open 1♣.


1♣-1♦-1♠-2♥
4♠-p-p-5♥
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Posted 2008-June-16, 08:37

What would 4♥ have shown the round before? Exclusion or something?
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Posted 2008-June-16, 08:53

gwnn, on Jun 16 2008, 09:28 AM, said:

unfavorable 1st seat ♠ AQTxx ♥ - ♦ Qx ♣ QJTxxx
1♣ (1♦) 1♠ (2♥)
4♠ (_p) _p (5♥)
??

IMO 5♠ = 10, _P = 7, _X = 3.
Bidding on because of the zombie shape :)
Jtfanclub has a point about an earlier splinter :) but 4♠ was descriptive too :)
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Posted 2008-June-16, 08:58

Well we are really stuck. A non-forcing pass would be perfect for this hand, but I don't think pass is non-forcing in this auction.
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Posted 2008-June-16, 09:15

I think I'm going to pass. We've stated our hand and only have a bit of extras in that we have a void and a 5th trump..but I'm not willing to bid 5S myself. Given that we probably have a different number of ways to raise spades, our 4S earlier would be based on shape and not that much in terms of hcp, therefore I don't think our pass of 5H would be forcing.
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Posted 2008-June-16, 09:17

andy_h, on Jun 16 2008, 04:15 PM, said:

only have a bit of extras in that we have a void and a 5th trump

Do you call that "a bit"?
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Posted 2008-June-16, 09:26

helene_t, on Jun 17 2008, 01:17 AM, said:

andy_h, on Jun 16 2008, 04:15 PM, said:

only have a bit of extras in that we have a void and a 5th trump

Do you call that "a bit"?

Well, they sorta get cancelled out by ♦Qx with our main suit only headed by QJT.
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Posted 2008-June-16, 09:29

After I concealed my hand with 4 Spade, my pd cannot make an informed descission anymore. So I must decide myself and I try 5 Spade. After all, I have a "defensive-free" hand.

I think that an own 4 Heart followed by a pass of 5 Heart had shown this hand a little better.
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Posted 2008-June-16, 09:34

I think I made a great description of my hand the last round. I could have cued, or splintered, or whatever. Seems I have already shows a weakish 4-6 or 5-6 here. I keep looking and I don't see a 7th club, or a great club suit, or any defense to speak of.

This is a pretty obvious pass.
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Posted 2008-June-16, 09:44

tough, but nature of opp's bidding may give the clue. if 2h was NF i'd pass, if it was F i'd think some more
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Posted 2008-June-16, 09:57

Really tough one.

My gut reaction is that if I bid I'm hoping 5♠X-1 v. 5♥=

I'll pass and hope for the -1. 5♠X-2 is a serious threat.
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