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A7xx
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A4x
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2D - (p) - 2H - (2S)
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What do you expect partner to have? What's your plan?
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Posted 2008-April-27, 17:35
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 17:39
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What do you expect partner to have?
I expect parther to have pulled the wrong card from the bidding box.
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What's your plan?
Bid 4D and save his lousy ass.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 17:55
As many hearts as he is allowed for the 2♦ opening (3 I guess), void/singleton in spades, and a good hand.
Opposite a perfect hand (- KQx KQxxxx xxxx) - probably too strong for 2♦ - we make 7 of a red suit. But trying for 6 seems clear enough - If partner has Kxx hearts, and Kxxxxx diamonds, 6 is not bad.
Not sure which red suit is best. I think I would just bid 6♦.
Opposite a perfect hand (- KQx KQxxxx xxxx) - probably too strong for 2♦ - we make 7 of a red suit. But trying for 6 seems clear enough - If partner has Kxx hearts, and Kxxxxx diamonds, 6 is not bad.
Not sure which red suit is best. I think I would just bid 6♦.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 18:25
I don't understand what is so strange about this bid. A grand is way too ambitious, so I am just going to bid 6♦. I don't like 5NT as much, but I think this is acceptable.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 18:37
lol Han, what is that A4x? Can't remember whether it was two or three? 
But what comes to the question, I'd take it as normal competetive auction cuebid = support for hearts and here accepts any invite. Spade shortness is likely but not demanded imo.
But what comes to the question, I'd take it as normal competetive auction cuebid = support for hearts and here accepts any invite. Spade shortness is likely but not demanded imo.
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Posted 2008-April-27, 19:36
What's the rush?
I'll start with a normal redouble to show that his 3♠ call was of slam interest to me and that I have first-round control. If partner bids 4♦ to confirm the KQ, I'll bid 4NT to check on that KQ, or ideally 5♣ Exclusion.
I'll start with a normal redouble to show that his 3♠ call was of slam interest to me and that I have first-round control. If partner bids 4♦ to confirm the KQ, I'll bid 4NT to check on that KQ, or ideally 5♣ Exclusion.
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Posted 2008-April-28, 01:53
He obviously has short spades and heart support - if he just had heart support without short spades, he could bid 3♥ or 4♥. x KQx KQxxxx xxx would be a one-level opening for me, so my only problem is which small slam to bid.
Opposite x Kxx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is better, because I can delay the heart guess until after I know the the diamond layout.
Opposite x Kxx KJxxxx xxx, the slams are equal (disregarding the matter of undertricks).
Opposite x Kxx KQxxxx xxx I want to play in hearts, because in 6♦ a club force at trick one is awkward.
Opposite x KQx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is still in trouble on a club lead, whereas 6♥ isn't. On a spade lead 6♦ is easy, but 6♥ needs one red suit 2-2.
Opposite a spade void and either red queen, 6♥ is straightforward (and can even cope with diamonds 4-0 some of the time), whereas 6♦ is still vulnerable to a club force.
Unless I have some clever way to obtain details of partner's secondary red-suit honours, I bid 6♥.
Opposite x Kxx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is better, because I can delay the heart guess until after I know the the diamond layout.
Opposite x Kxx KJxxxx xxx, the slams are equal (disregarding the matter of undertricks).
Opposite x Kxx KQxxxx xxx I want to play in hearts, because in 6♦ a club force at trick one is awkward.
Opposite x KQx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is still in trouble on a club lead, whereas 6♥ isn't. On a spade lead 6♦ is easy, but 6♥ needs one red suit 2-2.
Opposite a spade void and either red queen, 6♥ is straightforward (and can even cope with diamonds 4-0 some of the time), whereas 6♦ is still vulnerable to a club force.
Unless I have some clever way to obtain details of partner's secondary red-suit honours, I bid 6♥.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-April-28, 05:42
gnasher, on Apr 28 2008, 02:53 AM, said:
He obviously has short spades and heart support - if he just had heart support without short spades, he could bid 3♥ or 4♥. x KQx KQxxxx xxx would be a one-level opening for me, so my only problem is which small slam to bid.
Opposite x Kxx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is better, because I can delay the heart guess until after I know the the diamond layout.
Opposite x Kxx KJxxxx xxx, the slams are equal (disregarding the matter of undertricks).
Opposite x Kxx KQxxxx xxx I want to play in hearts, because in 6♦ a club force at trick one is awkward.
Opposite x KQx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is still in trouble on a club lead, whereas 6♥ isn't. On a spade lead 6♦ is easy, but 6♥ needs one red suit 2-2.
Opposite a spade void and either red queen, 6♥ is straightforward (and can even cope with diamonds 4-0 some of the time), whereas 6♦ is still vulnerable to a club force.
Unless I have some clever way to obtain details of partner's secondary red-suit honours, I bid 6♥.
Opposite x Kxx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is better, because I can delay the heart guess until after I know the the diamond layout.
Opposite x Kxx KJxxxx xxx, the slams are equal (disregarding the matter of undertricks).
Opposite x Kxx KQxxxx xxx I want to play in hearts, because in 6♦ a club force at trick one is awkward.
Opposite x KQx Kxxxxx xxx, 6♦ is still in trouble on a club lead, whereas 6♥ isn't. On a spade lead 6♦ is easy, but 6♥ needs one red suit 2-2.
Opposite a spade void and either red queen, 6♥ is straightforward (and can even cope with diamonds 4-0 some of the time), whereas 6♦ is still vulnerable to a club force.
Unless I have some clever way to obtain details of partner's secondary red-suit honours, I bid 6♥.
If you redouble and partner bid 4♦ but does not have the KQ of hearts, bid 6♦.
If you redouble and partner does not bid 4♦, he will have the KQ of hearts, so bid 6♥.
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Posted 2008-April-28, 06:57
kenrexford, on Apr 28 2008, 12:42 PM, said:
If you redouble and partner bid 4♦ but does not have the KQ of hearts, bid 6♦.
Why? Opposite x Kxx KQxxxx xxx I want to play in 6♥, not 6♦.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-April-28, 11:37
kenrexford, on Apr 27 2008, 05:36 PM, said:
What's the rush?
I'll start with a normal redouble to show that his 3♠ call was of slam interest to me and that I have first-round control. If partner bids 4♦ to confirm the KQ, I'll bid 4NT to check on that KQ, or ideally 5♣ Exclusion.
I'll start with a normal redouble to show that his 3♠ call was of slam interest to me and that I have first-round control. If partner bids 4♦ to confirm the KQ, I'll bid 4NT to check on that KQ, or ideally 5♣ Exclusion.
The rush is that if we go slowly, they will soon discover their side fit in clubs and a profitable sacrifice.
5N should let pard choose slams.
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Posted 2008-April-28, 12:12
Expect nuts in terms of how good his hand is for playing in hearts, and would bid 4♣. If partner has x Kxx KQJxxx xxx then we want to be in slam.
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Posted 2008-April-28, 13:40
pclayton, on Apr 28 2008, 12:37 PM, said:
kenrexford, on Apr 27 2008, 05:36 PM, said:
What's the rush?
I'll start with a normal redouble to show that his 3♠ call was of slam interest to me and that I have first-round control. If partner bids 4♦ to confirm the KQ, I'll bid 4NT to check on that KQ, or ideally 5♣ Exclusion.
I'll start with a normal redouble to show that his 3♠ call was of slam interest to me and that I have first-round control. If partner bids 4♦ to confirm the KQ, I'll bid 4NT to check on that KQ, or ideally 5♣ Exclusion.
The rush is that if we go slowly, they will soon discover their side fit in clubs and a profitable sacrifice.
5N should let pard choose slams.
Opponents who have already had the opportunity to jam our auction but decline to do so, instead tossing us a freebie chance to make a redouble for no apparent reason, do not seem to sacrifice over slams simply because we take time to get there.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."
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Posted 2008-April-28, 13:41
gnasher, on Apr 28 2008, 07:57 AM, said:
kenrexford, on Apr 28 2008, 12:42 PM, said:
If you redouble and partner bid 4♦ but does not have the KQ of hearts, bid 6♦.
Why? Opposite x Kxx KQxxxx xxx I want to play in 6♥, not 6♦.
The point is not what you do or do not want to do if given information. The point is that, if you need the information, ask.
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