[han]

FrancesHinden, on Apr 25 2008, 01:18 PM, said:

[If only you played a nice simple system like Acol, where 1S - 2C - 3C is non-forcing showing a minimum hand with four-card club support. Admittedly life is very difficult when you have a forcing hand with club support, but at least it's more obviously natural bidding.]

In one system you have to make up a bid when you have extras, in the other you have to make up a bid when you don't. I don't see why one system is more natural than the other.

Clearly old fashioned 2/1 is the way to go if you want natural auctions.

[kgr]

pclayton, on Apr 24 2008, 05:22 PM, said:

3♣ even if it shows extras.

agree

[Winstonm]

I believe Mike Lawrence nails this one with his recommendation that the raise of the minor should be either extra values OR an unbalanced hand with 4-card support.

[jdeegan]

3♣. After that, I am pulling in my horns.