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#1 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2008-April-11, 08:48

Playing in an ACBL IMP pairs game on BBO, you pick up:

Scoring: XIMP

P - (P) - 2♥* - (x)
P - 3NT - All Pass


* Not everyone's cup of tea, but in IMP pairs, especially at favorable vul, you have to push your opponents around when you can.

So, you are on lead. What is your choice?
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Posted 2008-April-11, 08:51

Low Diamond
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Posted 2008-April-11, 09:01

low diamond
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Posted 2008-April-11, 09:35

High diamond, the 8 making the difference to me.

2♥ is crazy. I would have bid it myself.

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Posted 2008-April-11, 10:14

Why do we need the bidding lesson? A simple "if you don't like it too bad for you" would suffice.

I'll go queen of diamonds.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 10:41

Spade Jack.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 11:20

jdonn, on Apr 11 2008, 11:14 AM, said:

Why do we need the bidding lesson? A simple "if you don't like it too bad for you" would suffice.

I'll go queen of diamonds.

IMO, using the phrase that you suggest is in bad taste. I expressed my opinion of IMP pair tactics. You are free to agree or disagree as you wish, but at least don't be disagreeable about it. B)
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Posted 2008-April-11, 11:36

True, it's more polite to say in different words "If you don't like it you are wrong since it's right for this reason." Nothing is in better taste than unsolicited lessons. How much do we owe you B)

Ken I would never lead it, but I have this gut feeling the spade jack is going to be the winning lead this time. So I'm very bitter you chose it.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 12:03

Small diamond.

I can see the advantages of leading the queen, but I'd be worried that partner may do the wrong thing by misreading my holding.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 12:45

Always a diamond here for me - my regular partner would kill me if I lead something else. I'd go for the queen.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 14:14

It is funny that almost everyone agrees that the right lead is a diamond, whether high or low. Ken leads the ♠J, and Josh says that he won't do it, but strongly suspects that it is the winning lead on this hand.

And so it is:

Scoring: XIMP


A spade lead produces 5 immediate tricks, while a club or heart lead gives declarer a slow, lingering death.

I led a low diamond.

I have to admit that I would have opened either 1♠ or 2♠ on my partner's hand, but there are plenty of players who would pass.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 14:23

If I had passed as dealer then I would bid 2♠ after 2♥ X. I refuse to let the suit go unbid altogether if I can help it.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 14:26

skaeran, on Apr 11 2008, 12:45 PM, said:

Always a diamond here for me - my regular partner would kill me if I lead something else. I'd go for the queen.

Wow, and you are still alive! You and your partner must be very well in tune, then.
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Posted 2008-April-11, 15:19

Brilliance is often rewarded. :)
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Posted 2008-April-11, 18:50

kenrexford, on Apr 11 2008, 04:19 PM, said:

Brilliance is often rewarded.   :)

Well non brilliance here


I passed in third seat........and bidding went against two wc or super exp.

p=p=p=1nt
2s=3nt=pppp

1) I was shocked pard did not open one spade, Justin just talked about this hand type last week.
2) But he found the K of s lead somehow :P I was squeezed on spades and clubs
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Posted 2008-April-11, 21:44

An odd hand. I certainly would have bid S at some stage. On the given auction I would definitely lead a D, though as Josh I suspected that S was the winning lead. And finally I think the 2H opening sucks regardless of any form of scoring.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 00:09

cherdano, on Apr 11 2008, 09:26 PM, said:

skaeran, on Apr 11 2008, 12:45 PM, said:

Always a diamond here for me - my regular partner would kill me if I lead something else. I'd go for the queen.

Wow, and you are still alive! You and your partner must be very well in tune, then.

Sure. My partner would never hold that north hand on this auction.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 01:21

ArtK78, on Apr 11 2008, 03:14 PM, said:

It is funny that almost everyone agrees that the right lead is a diamond, whether high or low. Ken leads the ♠J, and Josh says that he won't do it, but strongly suspects that it is the winning lead on this hand.

And so it is:

Scoring: XIMP


A spade lead produces 5 immediate tricks, while a club or heart lead gives declarer a slow, lingering death.

I led a low diamond.

I have to admit that I would have opened either 1♠ or 2♠ on my partner's hand, but there are plenty of players who would pass.

Call the director!

Someone has removed, not only partners spade-cards from his bidding -box, but all his double-cards as well.

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Posted 2008-April-12, 04:00

OleBerg, on Apr 12 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

Someone has removed, not only partners spade-cards from his bidding -box, but all his double-cards as well.

What lead would DBL of 3NT asks? For me it would say I have Hx in Hearts and asks for a small H lead.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 04:55

There's also the minor point that LHO doesn't have a double of 2H, and RHO doesn't have a 3NT bid. Or was the double alerted as penalties?
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