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#1 User is offline   Codo 

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Posted 2008-March-11, 09:15

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So this is a real team game. Last game of the league. You are currently first, facing the second placed team.

The bidding proceeds:

East You West North
2♦ pass 2♥ pass
2♠ pass pass pass

2 Diamond was Multi, 2 Heart pass/correct 2 Spade weak with spades.

Are you happy with your bidding?
Or had you introduced you Diamonds on your first or second opportunity?
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Posted 2008-March-11, 09:17

I have introduced my diamonds on my first occasion, 3♦.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 09:24

huh.. straight 3♦, no?
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Posted 2008-March-11, 09:40

I acted immediately over 2D, either 3D or double depending on what double would have meant.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 09:50

Not even close to happy. We've sold out to 2♠ when we have a possible 3N.

I'm finding some call at my first opportunity - either double or 3♦.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 11:52

I'm really liking a direct 3♦. Just right on values, a nice suit, keeps opps from finding their major suit easily. Gets your hand off your chest right away and puts partner in the driving seat. What's the problem?
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Posted 2008-March-11, 12:24

I'd make a direct 3♦ overcall - this doesn't show much values in our methods (2♠ would show a strong ♦ overcall).
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Posted 2008-March-11, 13:06

No I don't feel good. My stomach must be hurting really badly, or maybe I forgot to put in my contact lenses, otherwise I wouldn't have passed in the first round.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 13:12

I'd have shown diamonds at my first call.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 13:37

Would have bid 3D.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-11, 16:06

Not happy selling out to 2S. I would bid 3D first round
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Posted 2008-March-11, 17:50

Double or 3♦ the first time.

We play Double shows a decent weak NT hand or a flexible minor suit overcall. This hand is more like an immediate 3♦ but it is getting close to double.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 18:06

I disagree with an initial pass but don't dislike it as much as everyone else seems to. Anyway, the hand is surely worth 3♦ on the second round.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 18:13

I don't understand passing here at all.
Of course I overcall 3♦ originally.

If I am called in to substitute in the middle of the auction because the person who held this hand was taken away unconscious - hence explaining the initial pass - then I bid 3♦ on the second round.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 18:18

rogerclee, on Mar 12 2008, 01:06 PM, said:

I disagree with an initial pass but don't dislike it as much as everyone else seems to. Anyway, the hand is surely worth 3♦ on the second round.

Passing the first time is fine on this auction.

When it really hurts is when the bidding comes back to you at the 3-level:

2♦ Pass 3♥* Pass
Pass/3♠ Pass ...

* Pass or correct.

This happens but not as often as over some other nebulous pre-empts like Ekrens etc. Sitting around with a decent hand just doesn't seem to work.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 02:13

Well you had been happy with passing after the event. :)

The obvious 3♦ call earned me -800, pass had reduced it to - 140.

I am not as sure as all of you that passing is so bad.
If pd has enough for game, he will find a bid in the passout seat.

And if we just compete for the partial, it may not be worth the risk?
(okay, you don´t often find partner with Jx, AJxx,void, Jxxxxx opposite your 3 Diamond bid)
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Posted 2008-March-12, 02:38

Was the pass over 2♦ forcing showing ♦s? Haha. I see no other reason to pass over 2♦.You dont even have to bid 3♦ directly.You can even x 2♦ to show ♦s.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 07:29

Pass first round then bid 3D in passout seat - an immediate 3D shouldnt be a minimum hand imho.
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