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To Stayman or Not...

Poll: To Stayman or Not... (35 member(s) have cast votes)

To Stayman or Not...

  1. Stayman (7 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  2. Pass (28 votes [80.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2008-March-11, 19:27

MPs, White vs Red

♠J74 ♥9765 ♦QJ84 ♣J3

(P) - 1NT - (P) - ?
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Posted 2008-March-11, 19:44

Stayman.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-11, 19:45

NOT!
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Posted 2008-March-11, 19:48

Pass for me.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 21:46

Pass for me also.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 22:16

Make the hand 4-4 in the majors = yes if you and partner are playing garbage stayman due to the (off the top of my head) 50% chance of reaching a 4-4 major split. On the hand given? No. Its often better to play with the field than anti-field at MPs.
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Posted 2008-March-11, 22:21

Pass. I would Stayman with the same shape and fewer HCP: 1NT might be a disaster and we should find at least a 7-card fit. With half the deck, the 7 card fit isn't so likely to play better and 1N is unlikely to be hurt badly white. (Red would be a tougher decision at MP: we are trying to avoid -200.)

Also passing doesn't convey the impression we are on the run they way a garbage stayman sequence does--so running increases the chance of a double when we can be hurt.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 00:04

Pass. 1NT might easily be our best spot, and only a 2♥ response from partner is really good for stayman. Just envisage playing in a 4-2 diamond fit.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 00:10

This is a nice hand for playing NT.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 00:13

han, on Mar 11 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

Stayman.

I don't mean to offend you if you meant it, but was this serious?
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Posted 2008-March-12, 00:25

No. I don't see an advantage to being a level higher, as I don't think my doubleton is worth more than a full extra trick.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 00:43

Garbage stayman players will never stayman so we can exclude them from our discussion.

Those who dont know/play garbage stayman it is better to pass 1nt. This is nice hand for nt.If you still arent convinced GL playing in a 4-2 ♦ fit at the worst.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 03:30

Pass I can afford a few 50s.

It will be easier for the opponents to find their fit if we bid Stayman.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 03:54

Obvious pass, so I guess the reason why this was posted is we have a heart fit :)
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Posted 2008-March-12, 05:36

Okay, I thought it was close, but I am sort of nuts about bidding stayman. The responses to this poll have greatly convinced me not to pull this kind of stuff anymore.

It didn't matter a whole lot on the actual hand. Par should've been either 2D= or 1N=.
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Posted 2008-March-12, 13:42

Move a club to diamonds and obv you should Stayman it
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Posted 2008-March-12, 14:14

hi
pass for me .. but why guess? ..your partnership should have a policy of always passing or always stayman on this hand-type, and just live with the result

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