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Balancing?
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Posted 2008-March-08, 02:34
Michael Sun
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Posted 2008-March-08, 02:53
Obviously partner wants me to double but I won't oblige with this hand. I would bid 2H. I do not like passing, even though sometimes balancing will cause us to get too high game is definitely still in play for us, as is playing a partscore and going plus instead of going minus defending 2D. Even if partner jumps to 3N over our 2H bid and goes down a couple, it might be a push vs 90, or it might be a lose 4 on a really bad day where we could have gone +50.
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Posted 2008-March-08, 02:58
If you bal., and I would, it is 2H.
Some would have solved the problem a round
earlier with a 2H opening, but if it is your style
to pass, than partner will know, that he may face
a 6 carder.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Some would have solved the problem a round
earlier with a 2H opening, but if it is your style
to pass, than partner will know, that he may face
a 6 carder.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-March-08, 03:01
I don't think I'd balance, since it gets us to game virtually always, often going down. I can't even take diamond finesses into partner's hand, which means partner often has significant diamond waste.
Double is okay, but RHO will screw you every once in awhile by having 3 (or more!) diamonds. I'd probably just go quietly. I don't expect 2♦ to go down by a lot, even if it does.
Double is okay, but RHO will screw you every once in awhile by having 3 (or more!) diamonds. I'd probably just go quietly. I don't expect 2♦ to go down by a lot, even if it does.
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Posted 2008-March-08, 03:05
rogerclee, on Mar 8 2008, 04:01 AM, said:
I don't think I'd balance, since it gets us to game virtually always, often going down.
It better be going down VERY often. Even if you get to game like always, arent they making 2D a fair amount? And even if theyre going down and you're going down it's a very small swing. Probably if you are going to make game 1 every 6 times you want to be there given that your other option is to defend 2D. And I don't think making game is SO unlikely, you just need to catch a fit.
Also, I don't think you're going to be in game anywhere close to always. You're a passed hand and partner would need like 15+ to force to game and there's plenty of room for him to have some random 12-14ish hand that couldn't act where you play a peaceful partscore.
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Posted 2008-March-08, 03:53
rogerclee, on Mar 8 2008, 10:01 AM, said:
I don't think I'd balance, since it gets us to game virtually always, often going down.
There's no reason why partner should kill you for balancing.
Your 2nd seat pass and non-double now will tell him that you're weak, unbalanced and can't stand a penalty pass, often due to a diamond void.
Trust your partner and balance with 2♥.
Kind regards,
Harald
Harald
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Posted 2008-March-08, 03:58
Jlall, on Mar 8 2008, 02:05 AM, said:
rogerclee, on Mar 8 2008, 04:01 AM, said:
I don't think I'd balance, since it gets us to game virtually always, often going down.
Even if you get to game like always, arent they making 2D a fair amount? And even if theyre going down and you're going down it's a very small swing. Probably if you are going to make game 1 every 6 times you want to be there given that your other option is to defend 2D.
Yeah, that's true. Converted.
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Posted 2008-March-08, 04:39
2♦. Seems clear, despite the low hcp.
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Posted 2008-March-08, 05:41
I'm definitely not passing. We are NV and it seems like partner has a few diamonds. I'm not going to X as it may make on some days given our void and lots of major cards, so I will bid 2♥. Game may still be in the picture, or we could be going off in it or 3♥ when 2♦ may make so it's not such a big deal.
Partner's seen my original pass and the lack of re-opening x so everything should be a-okay.
Partner's seen my original pass and the lack of re-opening x so everything should be a-okay.
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We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
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Posted 2008-March-08, 10:25
2H seems obvious here, I don't think pass or double are serious alternatives.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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