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Poll: Balancing what do you bid?

Poll: what is your bid? (40 member(s) have cast votes)

what is your bid?

  1. One Heart (35 votes [87.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 87.50%

  2. Double (4 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. Other (1 votes [2.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

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#1 User is offline   Feegle 

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Posted 2008-January-29, 10:38

♠KQx ♥KJxxx ♦xx ♣Jxx

Love all. LHO opens 1 Diamond, passed around to you.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 10:41

1H, wtp
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Posted 2008-January-29, 10:44

Agree.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 10:50

Borrowing a king I have 13 and a clear preference for hearts. 1♥
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2008-January-29, 12:17

bid your hand. 1♥.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 12:54

Ditto 1♥ wtp
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 13:13

Obvious 1H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-29, 14:02

pard could not overcall or double at nv 1D. Is not pass a reasonable option?
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Posted 2008-January-29, 14:03

No, pass is not reasonable.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
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Posted 2008-January-29, 14:05

mike777, on Jan 29 2008, 02:02 PM, said:

pard could not overcall or double at nv  1D. Is not pass a reasonable option?

True, at most he could have a hand like xx ATxx Kxxx AQT, so why should we bid?
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Posted 2008-January-29, 14:06

cherdano, on Jan 29 2008, 03:05 PM, said:

mike777, on Jan 29 2008, 02:02 PM, said:

pard could not overcall or double at nv  1D. Is not pass a reasonable option?

True, at most he could have a hand like xx ATxx Kxxx AQT, so why should we bid?

True he could have a super max but I overcall 1H with that hand..not pass so...
That example has a lot of quick tricks.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 14:06

Wait, we have game if partner holds that hand Arend, we should bid!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-29, 14:33

another wannabe unanimous poll bites the dust
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Posted 2008-January-29, 14:48

gwnn, on Jan 29 2008, 03:33 PM, said:

another wannabe unanimous poll bites the dust

Well if you are not going to overcall with 3QT hand with 4Hearts I guess we better balance.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 15:00

mike777, on Jan 29 2008, 03:48 PM, said:

gwnn, on Jan 29 2008, 03:33 PM, said:

another wannabe unanimous poll bites the dust

Well if you are not going to overcall with 3QT hand with 4Hearts I guess we better balance.

I knew you'd see the light.

You know, "pard could not overcall or double at nv 1D." is just an argument against ever balancing on this auction. I guess I never will again.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 15:02

As I said I had nothing against 1H, I just thought pass was a reasonable option not the only option. :) Oh well....
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Posted 2008-January-29, 15:08

This is B/I, not ego deathmatch. (If you want beginners to be brave enough to post, be wrong and learn, please keep the sarcasm and opinion bashing to the other forums.)

xx ATxx Kxxx AQT, over 1♦...

1♥ promises 5+ hearts
1NT promises more points
2♣ promises 5+ clubs
2♦ promises 5+ diamonds
Double promises better spades

Balancing exists for precisely this kind of situation - partner has no reasonable bid or is trapping, but your side may still be able to make game, or at least a better contract.

Clearly, you and partner need to be on the same page. If partner routinely overcalls with short suits, then maybe you don't need to know about balacing at all. If your partner doesn't know you're "borrowing a king", don't. But my understaning has always been that balancing is standard and beneficial.

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Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2008-January-29, 15:23

vuroth, on Jan 29 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

This is B/I, not ego deathmatch. (If you want beginners to be brave enough to post, be wrong and learn, please keep the sarcasm and opinion bashing to the other forums.)

Apparently you don't know mike777 yet. He knows better than to be serious about what he is posting here; actually it would be more insulting to take him seriously than to treat him with sarcasm. Since we can't stop him from posting this non-sense in the B/I forum, we owe it to B/I's reading this thread to point out that they shouldn't take him seriously.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 16:09

cherdano, on Jan 29 2008, 04:23 PM, said:

vuroth, on Jan 29 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

This is B/I, not ego deathmatch.  (If you want beginners to be brave enough to post, be wrong and learn, please keep the sarcasm and opinion bashing to the other forums.)

Apparently you don't know mike777 yet. He knows better than to be serious about what he is posting here; actually it would be more insulting to take him seriously than to treat him with sarcasm. Since we can't stop him from posting this non-sense in the B/I forum, we owe it to B/I's reading this thread to point out that they shouldn't take him seriously.



"pard could not overcall or double at nv 1D. Is not pass a reasonable option?"

I am an Int level player.

I was asking the question seriously, not to get insulted.
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Posted 2008-January-29, 16:41

whereagles, on Jan 29 2008, 11:41 AM, said:

1H, wtp

write it in captial letters.
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