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What would your bidding sequence be (you sitting in all 4 seats)? Assume everyone plays 5cM strong NT, so E opens 1♦.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 06:20
What would your bidding sequence be (you sitting in all 4 seats)? Assume everyone plays 5cM strong NT, so E opens 1♦.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 06:25
1♦ pass pass 2NT
pass 3♦ pass 3♥
pass 3NT
and a merry 1 down
2NT = 17-19
3♦ = transfer (system on)
3NT = optimistic, but must bid at imps
pass 3♦ pass 3♥
pass 3NT
and a merry 1 down
2NT = 17-19
3♦ = transfer (system on)
3NT = optimistic, but must bid at imps
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Posted 2008-January-23, 06:32
I copy this sequence except that 2NT is 19 - 21 for me. It's not over yet. If the defense take 4♠ East is squeezed on the 4th ♣.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 07:33
same as Gerben
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Posted 2008-January-23, 07:38
what if W is cheeky and bids 1♠?
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Posted 2008-January-23, 08:02
1♦ P 1♠ P
2♠ P P x
P 3♥ all pass
making 9 or 10 depending on whether South has the 98 of hearts or not.
Just goes to show it's wrong to respond...
2♠ P P x
P 3♥ all pass
making 9 or 10 depending on whether South has the 98 of hearts or not.
Just goes to show it's wrong to respond...
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Posted 2008-January-23, 08:09
1♦-P-P-2NT
P-3♦-P-3♥
P-3NT-AP
If the defenders choose to attack spades and clear the suit, they will rectify the count for a (marked) squeeze to allow declarer to make 3NT.
P-3♦-P-3♥
P-3NT-AP
If the defenders choose to attack spades and clear the suit, they will rectify the count for a (marked) squeeze to allow declarer to make 3NT.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 08:47
... if declarer guesses the clubs.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 09:51
1♦ P 1♠ 1NT
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 09:54
jdonn, on Jan 23 2008, 05:51 PM, said:
1♦ P 1♠ 1NT
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
and the spade stop?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 09:59
gwnn, on Jan 23 2008, 10:54 AM, said:
jdonn, on Jan 23 2008, 05:51 PM, said:
1♦ P 1♠ 1NT
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
and the spade stop?
I know
But I have 19 and at least a way to show a balanced hand, I would bid 1NT anyway. I figure if spades are raised I'm off the hook, if not there is a good chance partner has help there.I got too high, you know I was being honest
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Posted 2008-January-23, 10:06
jdonn, on Jan 23 2008, 10:51 AM, said:
1♦ P 1♠ 1NT
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
2♠ 3♦ P 4♥
1NT natural about 16-19, 3♦ inv+ with hearts which is a stretch but I think I would. Of course north won't go back to notrump now, so I think I get to 4♥. It looks like it's probably down.
Either what Josh said, or if responder passes then
(1d)-p-(p)-X
(p)-1h-(p)-1N
all pass
I don't see why the strong hand should bid 2N over 1d (which is 20-22 in my mind). Even if it was 19-21 I might downgrade it because A-J-nothing is not worth 5 HCP.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 10:09
I'm in the balance with 2NT crowd.
However -- one observation. In a hand diagram, an "x" usually means a worthless pip. However, the diagram is "impossible" from that standpoint. If, for example, South has the heart 9, or West the heart 9 and South the heart 8, then Declarer has another option in 3NT of simply trying the smother of the 10, as well as options at 4♥ for that matter.
So, I'm curious as to what is actually going on in the heart tertiaries.
However -- one observation. In a hand diagram, an "x" usually means a worthless pip. However, the diagram is "impossible" from that standpoint. If, for example, South has the heart 9, or West the heart 9 and South the heart 8, then Declarer has another option in 3NT of simply trying the smother of the 10, as well as options at 4♥ for that matter.
So, I'm curious as to what is actually going on in the heart tertiaries.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 10:21
kenrexford, on Jan 23 2008, 06:09 PM, said:
I'm in the balance with 2NT crowd.
However -- one observation. In a hand diagram, an "x" usually means a worthless pip. However, the diagram is "impossible" from that standpoint. If, for example, South has the heart 9, or West the heart 9 and South the heart 8, then Declarer has another option in 3NT of simply trying the smother of the 10, as well as options at 4♥ for that matter.
So, I'm curious as to what is actually going on in the heart tertiaries.
However -- one observation. In a hand diagram, an "x" usually means a worthless pip. However, the diagram is "impossible" from that standpoint. If, for example, South has the heart 9, or West the heart 9 and South the heart 8, then Declarer has another option in 3NT of simply trying the smother of the 10, as well as options at 4♥ for that matter.
So, I'm curious as to what is actually going on in the heart tertiaries.
what if I deliberately didn't include the heart pips to make everyone bid honestly?
(or I just didn't think about it at all... but surely that's impossible
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... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 16:26
balance to 2n and probably land in 3n after a heart transfer.
doesn't 3nt make on a red suit squeeze if they lead and cash their spades first?
doesn't 3nt make on a red suit squeeze if they lead and cash their spades first?
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Posted 2008-January-23, 21:35
I think I might end up in 4♦ if Responder introduces the spades.
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