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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2008-January-11, 01:14

Scoring: MP

(2d)=p=(2nt)=3h
p=?


Your bid and why?
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Posted 2008-January-11, 01:22

What is up with these problems lately? I bid 3N because partner came in red/white at the 3 level and I have diamonds VERY well stopped and a lot of HCP and no heart fit. I don't understand what else you can do?
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Posted 2008-January-11, 01:28

3N. It's nice to have your bid once in awhile.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 01:31

Jlall, on Jan 11 2008, 02:22 AM, said:

What is up with these problems lately? I bid 3N because partner came in red/white at the 3 level and I have diamonds VERY well stopped and a lot of HCP and no heart fit. I don't understand what else you can do?

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Posted 2008-January-11, 01:43

3NT. Agree that no further comment is necessary.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 02:51

I suppose 4 is also an alternative but it's definitely not logical ;) . RHO will overruff dummy. It's very likely that in fact there are less tricks in than in NT.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 10:01

Jlall, on Jan 11 2008, 02:22 AM, said:

What is up with these problems lately? I bid 3N because partner came in red/white at the 3 level and I have diamonds VERY well stopped and a lot of HCP and no heart fit. I don't understand what else you can do?


I did bid 3nt


Partner thought I might pass, he said he might have doubled if he had a better hand.

As it was they had 6 top clubs and 2 other aces...partner had:

AQx...KQJ9xx...xx...xx
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Posted 2008-January-11, 10:43

3NT is absolutely clear.

Whether partner should bid 4 is the issue on this hand.

Quite frankly, partner's hand is, at best, minimum to enter a live auction at the 3-level. I am sure there would be many who would not bid 3 on those cards after partner could not act over 2 and RHO bids 2NT.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 11:08

mike777, on Jan 11 2008, 08:01 AM, said:

Jlall, on Jan 11 2008, 02:22 AM, said:

What is up with these problems lately? I bid 3N because partner came in red/white at the 3 level and I have diamonds VERY well stopped and a lot of HCP and no heart fit. I don't understand what else you can do?


I did bid 3nt


Partner thought I might pass, he said he might have doubled if he had a better hand.

As it was they had 6 top clubs and 2 other aces...partner had:

AQx...KQJ9xx...xx...xx

File under R for Resulting.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 12:00

R vs W partner entered the auction because he expect to make something. So 3nt is clearcut. IMHO W vs R its would be a complete different story where 3H could be inv for sacrifice and X would show the goodish hands .
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Posted 2008-January-11, 15:25

I know I am late and already saw the answer, but why is 3N so clear cut?
You have a 10 count, with no aces. The no fit with partner makes the call even worse since, you do not have any real source of tricks. How am I going to get to 9 tricks without hearts breaking well, which they probably don't since I don't think he has to have a solid suit.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 15:33

I would duplicate the auction.
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Posted 2008-January-11, 15:39

ASkolnick, on Jan 11 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

I know I am late and already saw the answer, but why is 3N so clear cut?
You have a 10 count, with no aces. The no fit with partner makes the call even worse since, you do not have any real source of tricks. How am I going to get to 9 tricks without hearts breaking well, which they probably don't since I don't think he has to have a solid suit.

It is clear for the reasons that I cited and that Ben cited - partner entered into a live auction at the three level red against white after you passed over 2. Partner MUST have a very good hand for that action. You could hardly have more than you have for a 3NT call. I would suspect that the 2NT call was a psyche.
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