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#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2008-January-01, 04:11


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     1    Pass  2NT
 5    5    Pass  6
 7    Dbl   Pass  Pass
 Pass  



2NT alerted as game force
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Posted 2008-January-01, 04:25

7 is an aweful bid, because you let partner doubt if you have psyched 5. Imo 6NT would be better :)
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Posted 2008-January-01, 04:28

Hilarious :)

West, after making the opponents guess, took a bad unilateral save at the 7 level.

East wanted to defend 6. So he helpfully took a preference to clubs, in order that partner might learn from the experience.
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Posted 2008-January-01, 04:28

What is 2N? Too strong for a natural 13-15 balanced and only 3 if jacoby.

7C is insane. With a spade void, East may have a trump stack. West took the shot with 5D, so time to shut up. If West wanted to show both suits, West should bid an Unusual NT.

BUT THE ABSOLUTE WORST BID WAS EAST'S PASS. In bridge, the MAIN purpose of having a partner is to pick the best suit when your partner bids 2 of them. If East cannot do that, East should play some other game. One that does not involve partners.
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Posted 2008-January-01, 05:02

whatever substance west is drinking or inhaling, i think i want to stay away from.
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Posted 2008-January-01, 08:28

East should correct to 7D.

Of course East could / should also bid
6D over 5H, the only valid excuse is,
and an excuse I would accept is, that he
has 5 spades and wants to defend.

West should pass 6S, he made North-
South guess, and he should be happy.
-5 red is already 1400, i.e. the value
of a red small slam, and that is the value
he has to expect.

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Posted 2008-January-01, 08:39

7C.. *shivers* Don't think I would even be brave enough for a 5D preempt. Maybe 4D is enough. East's pass of 7CX was...
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Posted 2008-January-01, 10:22

Proof that there should be drug testing in bridge.
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Posted 2008-January-01, 10:46

This would have been a greater story had North-South decided to use Smolenized Slam Tries by Opener.

North bids 5 only if he has what others would consider a 5 call. He bids 5 with holdings that others would consider a 5 call. This allows the partnership to have flexibility in the final contract, as to who declares, a critical tool when the person to Opener's right has announced incredible length in one or two suits and, accordingly, a high likelihood of a void on the side.

This enables South to go that extra mile and bid 7. If he gets a diamond lead, the show is over. A heart lead also makes it easy. South cashes two hearts to learn of the split, ending on dummy. He plays Q-J-x of spades, likely ending in hand. A diamond if ruffed and a spade ruffed. Now, the moment of truth. South needs all four clubs to make this. The only hope, then, is the stiff Queen to his right. So, club to King, dropping the Queen, pull the last trumps, ditching his remaining diamonds, and claim with clubs.

A club lead seems beneficial, but it leads to problems. Declarer again needs all four clubs. But, he can win whichever honor first that he needs to win. Let's keep options open and win the Ace in hand, noting the Queen drop.

Declarer now sees entry problems. So, he decides that he needs hearts to be 4-1, which seems likely anyway because of the club split. So, heart to King.

Declarer now plays the spades on dummy from the top, probably again ending up with small to the Ace as the third spade play. A diamond if ruffed, and then a spade is ruffed. But, that leaves Declarer trapped, unable to pull that last trump.

Now, obviously East's pass of 7♣X was bizarre. However, imagine an auction where North bids a Smolenized Slam Try of 5♠, South bids 6♣ as a grand try, West bids 7♣, passed by North to show the diamond void, and then passed by East (planning to pull 7♣X to 7), the pass being a lead-director, that would be brilliant.

So, I think East just used a great tool at the wrong time.

Or, East is just an idiot. You decide.
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Posted 2008-January-02, 11:01

All the calls were reasonable except 7 (and obv the pass of 7x). I think that hand is actually a minimum for the 5 jump at those colors, so why anyone would bid again with it is beyond me.
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Posted 2008-January-02, 12:30

kenrexford, on Jan 1 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

This would have been a greater story had North-South decided to use Smolenized Slam Tries by Opener.

North bids 5 only if he has what others would consider a 5 call. He bids 5 with holdings that others would consider a 5 call. This allows the partnership to have flexibility in the final contract, as to who declares, a critical tool when the person to Opener's right has announced incredible length in one or two suits and, accordingly, a high likelihood of a void on the side.

This enables South to go that extra mile and bid 7. If he gets a diamond lead, the show is over. A heart lead also makes it easy. South cashes two hearts to learn of the split, ending on dummy. He plays Q-J-x of spades, likely ending in hand. A diamond if ruffed and a spade ruffed. Now, the moment of truth. South needs all four clubs to make this. The only hope, then, is the stiff Queen to his right. So, club to King, dropping the Queen, pull the last trumps, ditching his remaining diamonds, and claim with clubs.

A club lead seems beneficial, but it leads to problems. Declarer again needs all four clubs. But, he can win whichever honor first that he needs to win. Let's keep options open and win the Ace in hand, noting the Queen drop.

Declarer now sees entry problems. So, he decides that he needs hearts to be 4-1, which seems likely anyway because of the club split. So, heart to King.

Declarer now plays the spades on dummy from the top, probably again ending up with small to the Ace as the third spade play. A diamond if ruffed, and then a spade is ruffed. But, that leaves Declarer trapped, unable to pull that last trump.

Now, obviously East's pass of 7♣X was bizarre. However, imagine an auction where North bids a Smolenized Slam Try of 5♠, South bids 6♣ as a grand try, West bids 7♣, passed by North to show the diamond void, and then passed by East (planning to pull 7♣X to 7), the pass being a lead-director, that would be brilliant.

So, I think East just used a great tool at the wrong time.

Or, East is just an idiot. You decide.

I think we need drug testing on this Forum.

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Posted 2008-January-08, 12:52

East strikes me as a player who is prone to concentration lapses when he gets angry/upset. (Reminds me of someone I know....)

Of course, if east plans on playing with west with any regularity, he'll get pleny of opportunity to overcome this bad habit.

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