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Reverse Flannery disaster What is the worst bid?

#21 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2007-November-28, 12:48

2 is 1000% clear. Good luck finding the 4-4 heart fit without it.

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Posted 2007-November-28, 13:54

jdonn, on Nov 28 2007, 11:38 AM, said:

SoTired, on Nov 28 2007, 11:12 AM, said:

3) Why did you not ask what 2S meant? Why are you guessing?

Because there is a <1% chance the opponents have an agreement, so you only help them by asking.

Fair enuf, but I think I'd pay off to the opps if they have a set defense, which they forgot to alert, to RFR, a convention that even many experts have never heard of. (or are you kidding and I am taking you too seriously... i can never tell)

Concerning not bidding 2H:

Unless someone is playing a home-grown version of RFR, it was described here and other places.

With a weak hand (5-8 or 5-9 or 6-9) and 5s, 4h (or 5-5 or 6-4), then you respond 2H to a 1m opening. (there are a bunch of continuations). This is a conventional bid. It's like playing Flannery and opening 1H rather than 2D because "my suits were not strong enough". NO... The strength of the suits are irrelevant. If you have the range and the correct shape, you bid it. PERIOD. If you don't, then partner will assume you either don't have the applicable shape or are too strong.

The RFR discussion was on this forum somewhere because Fred Gitelman plays it (or used to) and either he or someone else described it here.
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Posted 2007-November-28, 15:42

I would have bid 2H as well, although take away the diamond ace and I'd bid 1S. Arend and I agreed that with "less than an honest response" we typically bid 1S.

After 2H you have to pass the double of 3C. You have no idea what partner has and partner has quite a good picture of what you have.

Partner's 3S is really weird. I've never ever heard of a bid that asks if someone has a stopper in a suit they have shown 5+ cards.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-November-28, 16:06

To get pard to bid NT so that the lead comes to him.
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