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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2007-November-12, 07:45

Scoring: IMP

(1♥)-?

Do you bid 2♠, 1♠ or pass?
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Posted 2007-November-12, 07:46

2♠. Partner will expect less defense and more offense for a 3S bid.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 07:46

2♠
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Posted 2007-November-12, 07:51

My gut instinct was 3♠ looking at length purely...but the ♠suit is crap. Either pass or 2♠ for me.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 07:55

Both vul. so 2♠ will do. Not vulnerable i would bid 3♠.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 09:27

I'd consider 1♠ but 2♠ sounds better (albeit Woolsey: this is the worst suit ever, the Ace and many small cards).
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Posted 2007-November-12, 09:37

I would not concider 1♠, but would bid 2♠. Not sure what I would have done if non-vul, probably 2♠ then as well.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 10:02

2♠.

I'll bet Josh bids 1♠.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 10:05

2♠ vul and 3♠ (if I was NV)
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Posted 2007-November-12, 10:33

2S
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Posted 2007-November-12, 11:21

pclayton, on Nov 12 2007, 11:02 AM, said:

2♠.

I'll bet Josh bids 1♠.

Haha. It was my first instinct, but 2 is fine also.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 11:22

2S.

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Posted 2007-November-12, 11:23

2♠ here Red vs Red 3♠ if White vs Red. 1♠ never
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Posted 2007-November-12, 11:24

jdonn, on Nov 12 2007, 12:21 PM, said:

pclayton, on Nov 12 2007, 11:02 AM, said:

2♠.

I'll bet Josh bids 1♠.

Haha. It was my first instinct, but 2 is fine also.

Why is 1♠ wrong?
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Posted 2007-November-12, 11:30

zasanya, on Nov 12 2007, 12:24 PM, said:

jdonn, on Nov 12 2007, 12:21 PM, said:

pclayton, on Nov 12 2007, 11:02 AM, said:

2♠.

I'll bet Josh bids 1♠.

Haha. It was my first instinct, but 2 is fine also.

Why is 1♠ wrong?

1S is certainly not wrong, in my opinion
it is mainly a matter of tactical considerations
and of partnership agreements.

If you bid 2S, you are done with the hand, if you
bid 1S, you are certainly going to bid 2S, if you
have to, but you may have learned something about
the hand, and if you dont buy the hand, you have
concealed the hand type you hold.

And 1S is a little less risky than 2S.

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Posted 2007-November-12, 16:02

2♠ seems ok. 3♠ if feeling more pushy.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 17:13

Agree, but 3♠ only if very pushy.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 17:35

1S and 2S are both fine with me. I would never bid 3S.
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Posted 2007-November-12, 22:40

The reason I don't bid 1♠ is that then I have to bid 2♠ or may wish to compete to 3♠. When I overcall 1♠ and bid again I like to have more playing strength and useful HCP than this hand does.

2♠ gets the message across to PD and preempts the opps to some extent. My hand with a 7 bagger and only little chance to provide more than 1 defensive trick is a preempt to me. I find it quite important to mess with the opp's likely ♥ contract when you have ♠.

I'd open this hand 2♠ Red vs Red as I feel that the 7th trump compensates for the weak suit. If it is probably our hand we should have good chances for 4♠ if PD bids it with decent expectations to make. If it is their hand, we often will bid 4♠ or their 4♥ and pressure them.

Now if my suit was ♦, I wouldn't open 2♦ Red vs Red since I don't feel that 2♦ preempts nearly as much as 2♠ and I play disciplined weak 2♦ openings.
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Posted 2007-November-13, 02:22

I like 1S. But 2S is fine also given the vul but defo not 3S.
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