[jillybean]

Scoring: IMP

P (P) 2nt (P)
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How do you make a slam try after partner opens 2nt?
Maybe you dont want to with this hand but what are your methods if you do.

[skjaeran]

4♦ would be a natural slam try for me.
I'd not do it with this suit I guess, but it's close.

[jillybean]

skaeran, on Oct 20 2007, 10:54 PM, said:

4♦ would be a natural slam try for me.

Dont try it with me, we'd be in a ♥ slam

[skjaeran]

jillybean2, on Oct 21 2007, 07:58 AM, said:

skaeran, on Oct 20 2007, 10:54 PM, said:

4♦ would be a natural slam try for me.

Dont try it with me, we'd be in a ♥ slam

That would be fine with me, provided you had AKJxx or something like that in hearts.

[gwnn]

there is the system where you bid 3♠ to force 3NT and then 4♦ to show this sort of hand (well, Harald is right, it would help if a few of those outside quacks were inside the suit)

[whereagles]

I'm not invinting to anything with this trashy suit. Odds are you miss an ace out and quite likely a diamond as well.

[FrancesHinden]

I would make a slam try in diamonds. Nothing wrong with Axxxxx opposite a 2NT opener, partner's the one with all the high cards.

My methods are to respond 3S (to play in 3NT or diamond slam try) then raise partner's forced 3NT to 4NT. But methods aren't important; if I haven't agreed anything except, say, transfers and Stayman, I would just bid 4D.

If I have agreed to play 4m as conventional, then I obviously agreed at the same time how to show a slam try with a minor.

[Codo]

My slam try would be 3 !S as a transfer to 3 NT followed by 4 ♦ asking if pd would like his hand opposite my diamonds.
If he does and confirms me that we have enough Aces, I try 6 D

[Fluffy]

I'd like to make a 5 card diamond slam try if avaible, if not a 6 card diamond slam try.

[andy_h]

3S force to 3NT then 4D showing slam try. Though not too happy about it with Qx and Jx and a ratty suit.

[kenrexford]

This brings up a missed opportunity.

3♠ is often played as a relay to 3NT to allow Responder to make a slam try.

So, why no super-acceptances of 3♠?

I would bid 3♠. If partner bids 3NT, I pass.

However, my partner will make super-acceptances. With a hand that is powerful for a minor slam consideration, he bids 4♣. I then bump up my responses one degree:

4♦ = RKCB for clubs
4♥ = RKCB for diamonds
4♠ = stiff heart, minors
4NT = stiff spades, minors
5♣ = 2245 quantitative
5♦ = 2254 quantitative

[Trinidad]

I like to play 3♠ as a puppet to 3NT (to play 3NT, slam try with both minors or slam try with one minor). After partner's forced 3NT (no superacceptance! since usually it means I want to be in 3NT), I bid:

Pass: to play 3NT

4♣: showing both minors
4♦: I pick diamonds
rest: I pick clubs, cue

4♦: slam try in diamonds
cue bidding

rest: slam try in clubs, cueing

So, on this hand, I would bid 2NT-3♠; 3NT-4♦; 4X-5♦. I would go for the slam try since the form of scoring is IMPs.

Rik

[TheoKole]

This is similar to a hand that would make a slamtry after a 1NT opening by partner.

Obviously a similar hand after a 1NT opener would have to be stronger in high cards after 1NT.

In my regular partnership, we bid stayman an then bid the minor in what is a very serious slam try, partner then reevaluates his hand according to fit, shape and controls in side suits. We play that this is the only exception that does not promise a 4 card major suit although it may have one.

So our auction would be on this hand, 2NT -> 3 ♣ -> 3♦♥♠, -> 4 ♦
-> ?

A 4 NT bid would be for pass by partner at this point, and I would need extra strength to insist on slam. Otherwise, partner would give his lowest cuebid possible in the side suits agreeing to Diamonds as trumps and we would go from there to either a small or grand slam.

Theo

[helene_t]

With a pick-up partner I would just bid 6N. To be honest I have no clue how to bid this hand scientifically in any of my partnerships, let alone in SAYC. Maybe a quantitative 4N would make some sense, but I'm not sure if p will know when to accept. The problem is that I don't want to ask p about his own trick potential, I want to know if he can fill my suit and if he has some additional quik tricks.

[Free]

I wouldn't make a slamtry...

If I would want to, it depends on my agreements. With one partnership I play 4♣ as transfer ♦. After the transfer, I can start a cuebidding auction with slam ambition, bid 5♦ as signoff, or pass with a weak hand. Since I don't have any cuebids, I'm actually not capable of showing slam interest.