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1H p 1S 3D(lol) 3S 5D 6S p p p. Your lead?
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Posted 2007-September-15, 23:14
fifth best d.
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Posted 2007-September-15, 23:20
mike777, on Sep 16 2007, 12:14 AM, said:
fifth best d.
Thanks for your post Mike, would you mind enlightening us as to why you chose this lead? In particular:
Why do you think a diamond is better than a club?
Why do you think 5th best is the most likely to get partner to figure out to give you a heart ruff if partner happens to hold the first trick?
What kind of layout do you expect?
If this is such an obvious problem that no reasoning is needed for your choice then that is not obvious to me.
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Posted 2007-September-15, 23:25
If I'd lead a diamond then it would likely be the jack or even better the the 10. That way partner will be sure to win the ace, and after declarer follows partner will see that something fishy is going on: the J and Q are out and partner can see the 9.
That is all assuming that partner has the diamond ace and the trick holds. Declarer's bidding suggests diamond shortness, but that doesn't have to be a void. I think this combination is more likely than that partner has the club ace and finds the right switch, no matter what club I lead.
Perhaps I should have thought about this earlier. If I was going to lead a club then doubling 6S might have helped partner.
That is all assuming that partner has the diamond ace and the trick holds. Declarer's bidding suggests diamond shortness, but that doesn't have to be a void. I think this combination is more likely than that partner has the club ace and finds the right switch, no matter what club I lead.
Perhaps I should have thought about this earlier. If I was going to lead a club then doubling 6S might have helped partner.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-September-15, 23:30
1) A club lead may very well be the winning lead. I have no problem if partner chooses that.
2) I want to make an attacking lead. I prefer to lead from something, not nothing in general and I guess to not deviate from that on this hand.
3) I bid 3d so partner will know I have at least 6D if not more.
4) Not leading the Queen may blow a trick, I concede.
5) I choose to take that risk and lead 5th( i assume some form of third-fifth here) best so partner hopefully can:
5a: get a count on the suit
5b: wonder why I did not lead top of a sequence. (alarm clock lead?)
5c: guess to give me heart ruff if he does not have a natural h trick.
2) I want to make an attacking lead. I prefer to lead from something, not nothing in general and I guess to not deviate from that on this hand.
3) I bid 3d so partner will know I have at least 6D if not more.
4) Not leading the Queen may blow a trick, I concede.
5) I choose to take that risk and lead 5th( i assume some form of third-fifth here) best so partner hopefully can:
5a: get a count on the suit
5b: wonder why I did not lead top of a sequence. (alarm clock lead?)
5c: guess to give me heart ruff if he does not have a natural h trick.
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Posted 2007-September-15, 23:54
♦10. A lead that I hope will be seen by partner as 'impossible' and thus lead-directional. I don't expect RHO to have first round diamond control, so he probably has clubs controlled. There is a lot more I could post, but it boils down to the diamond lead as most likely to hit an Ace in partner's hand, and the 10 is the best shot at inducing a heart return.
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Posted 2007-September-16, 14:23
As Han and Mike I'd lead the ♦T. Hope partner can win the ace and be able to diagnose the ♥ ruff from my "impossible" lead.
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Posted 2007-September-16, 16:48
Why do people lead the ten instead of the jack? My thinking is the ten creates a potential guess for partner if dummy has Kx and declarer plays the king and follows with a singleton. Partner might think declarer had Jx and had played you to be underleading for a heart ruff. Or dummy has xx and partner has AKxx and tries to cash another. Of course partner should easily get these plays right since you won't have QT9xx for the 3♦ bid, but why even give him the choice? I still like the thoughts of the posters and think the ten is a good lead, but I'll go for the jack.
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Posted 2007-September-16, 17:04
jdonn, on Sep 16 2007, 05:48 PM, said:
Why do people lead the ten instead of the jack? My thinking is the ten creates a potential guess for partner if dummy has Kx and declarer plays the king and follows with a singleton. Partner might think declarer had Jx and had played you to be underleading for a heart ruff. Or dummy has xx and partner has AKxx and tries to cash another. Of course partner should easily get these plays right since you won't have QT9xx for the 3♦ bid, but why even give him the choice? I still like the thoughts of the posters and think the ten is a good lead, but I'll go for the jack.
In your example partner will know you don't have the D9 because either:
Partner will have the 9 or
Dummy will have the 9 or
Declarer will have the stiff 9 and will have been forced to play it.
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Posted 2007-September-16, 17:37
That is quite true. I still don't see how the ten is better than the jack. I instintively go for the highest that I can afford while hiding the queen, but since either is easily read as high I suppose the whole thing makes no difference.
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