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2C overcall?

Poll: Your call: (49 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call:

  1. Pass (11 votes [22.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.45%

  2. Double (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 2C (38 votes [77.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 77.55%

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Posted 2007-August-29, 18:35

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Posted 2007-August-29, 19:43

2♣. Get in the auction.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 19:54

Very close for me. I voted pass, but I'd overcall with x-Q9x-AJx-KJ108xx.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 20:22

The passers might also consider 3♣, if 2♣ showed more than this hand.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 20:48

I would overcall. I would rather overcall on this hand than if the ten of clubs were the ace of spades.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 20:50

jdonn, on Aug 29 2007, 09:48 PM, said:

I would overcall. I would rather overcall on this hand than if the ten of clubs were the ace of spades.

Wow.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 21:24

Pass, Prefer more for a 2level overcall, do not think 2clubs robs them of much space other than a forcing nt. Partner is an unpassed hand.



btw I do not think bidding 2c is bad, it is close.


This may force partner under the gun if it goes 1s=p=3s(weak)
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Posted 2007-August-29, 21:36

Lawrence overcalls 2c nv on:
3...A3....T532...KQJ763
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Posted 2007-August-29, 22:15

Seems obvious to bid 2C
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Posted 2007-August-29, 22:55

mike777, on Aug 29 2007, 10:36 PM, said:

Lawrence overcalls 2c nv on:
3...A3....T532...KQJ763

Well yes.
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Posted 2007-August-29, 23:03

Hannie, on Aug 29 2007, 11:55 PM, said:

mike777, on Aug 29 2007, 10:36 PM, said:

Lawrence overcalls 2c nv on:
3...A3....T532...KQJ763

Well yes.

The point being that hand is better than the one in this thread. But then Justin and others seem to say this example is auto also so......:rolleyes:
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Posted 2007-August-30, 00:07

mike777, on Aug 30 2007, 12:03 AM, said:

Hannie, on Aug 29 2007, 11:55 PM, said:

mike777, on Aug 29 2007, 10:36 PM, said:

Lawrence overcalls 2c nv on:
3...A3....T532...KQJ763

Well yes.

The point being that hand is better than the one in this thread. But then Justin and others seem to say this example is auto also so......:)

The point being that the quality and length of the suit is far more important than the strength of the hand.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 05:25

mike777, on Aug 29 2007, 10:36 PM, said:

Lawrence overcalls 2c nv on:
3...A3....T532...KQJ763

I would also overcall 2♣ with that hand.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 05:52

Put me in the 'obvious 2C' camp. One of my partners likes to double on this sort of hand.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 06:12

I would overcall, and ♣10 makes the difference. Without it I would not. 2♣ has no pre-emptive effect over 1♠; I would be much happier if the opening had been 1♦.

As Sabine Auken has pointed out several times: a 2♣ overcall after 1♦ often makes it difficult for the opponents. As it is here, one major has been bid already, so the 2♣ overcall is unlikely to make it difficult for my LHO.

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Posted 2007-August-30, 06:15

Walddk, on Aug 30 2007, 07:12 AM, said:

I would overcall, and ♣10 makes the difference. Without it I would not. 2♣ has no pre-emptive effect over 1♠; I would be much happier if the opening had been 1♦.

As Sabine Auken has pointed out several times: a 2♣ overcall after 1♦ often makes it difficult for the opponents. As it is here, one major has been bid already, so the 2♣ overcall is unlikely to make it difficult for my LHO.

Roland

That's one of the difference for me. Had the opening been 1♦, 2♣ looks beter, both for preemptive effect and because I now have notrump viability.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 12:34

Walddk, on Aug 30 2007, 07:12 AM, said:

I would overcall, and ♣10 makes the difference. Without it I would not.

I'm with Roland.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 12:38

1NT, 3 suited takeout. Otherwise, 2♣ for reasons above.
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Posted 2007-August-30, 13:15

This is close for me, but the hand is just not good enough for a 2♣ overcall in my style.
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Posted 2007-August-31, 00:19

I miss the 3♣ option, pass or 3♣depends on vulnerability, not even close to 2♣ IMO
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