[inquiry]

In another thread, one of our posters made the following statement...

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I have played on BBO almost from its inception. I quite possibly have played more hands here than anyone. If not I am certainly in the top three.

The first part of the quote is true. The second part, no doubt, the poster thought was true--and i thought might be true. But the statement got me to look to see who might have the most played hand. The fact is, the he was not even in the top 100,nor 200, nor 300. One BBO member has almost 35 thousands hand played in the main room alone (six times the number of hands the poster quoted above has).

[kenrexford]

I think I might have guessed the location of the queen wrong more often than anyone else on BBO...

[kgr]

Can we see how many hands we played ourselve? (I hope my wife is not able to see it!)
Can you tell me how many I played...just curious.

[hotShot]

35000 wow

Could you add how much time it took to reach that?

[inquiry]

hotShot, on Dec 28 2006, 07:54 AM, said:

35000 wow

Could you add how much time it took to reach that?

Well, that was 35,000 hands logged into bridgebrowser (yes I can look at all 35,000 hands, bidding, auction and play). All it takes is to run one of the reports. I didn't finish the report, I simply searched the first 200,000 BBO players in the database (there are a lot more) who had played 2000 hands or more. For that investigation I looked only at main room hands. This ran in background, and I stopped it after 200,000 to see if the original poster was found (he was), then sorted the list by hands played. You can sort by total hands, imp hands, mp hands (not many in main room), average imps, average MP, and a few other fields simply by clicking on the header.

There are soooo many bbo players that to do the entire list, looking for all the players would take quite a while (online). It would be much quicker it you had all the data local. There is a minor flaw in my analysis here, however. Those were only main room hands, no team and no tournaments. I will need to run a seperate search for those. Also there is some missing data from early 2006 that has recently (I think) been obtained but not unloaded (I will have to check on that).

[pigpenz]

looks like someone should get a life, almost as bad as 10,000 forum posts

ever wondered what someone like that looks like?

Did anyone see the Southpark Episode where the kids kept getting killed off in warcraft by some online cumputer geek....that is what i would expect of this person

[barmar]

Some of these are probably professional bridge players, so this is their life.

Consider the Cayne team, which every day plays one or two "Cayne vs whoever" team matches. Assuming they do one 28-board match a day, 5 days a week, 40 weeks out of the year (the other weeks I expect they're playing in f2f tournaments) that, that's more than 5,000 boards/year. Before and after these team matches they're often playing in the MBC, so they probably have a similar number of main room hands.

I know a number of amateur bridge players who play at least one f2f club game every day, so it's not that hard to imagine similar amounts of online play. I expect that when I retire, I'll probably play lots of bridge (I'd also like to get into directing more).

[bid_em_up]

inquiry, on Dec 28 2006, 08:24 AM, said:

I didn't finish the report, I simply searched the first 200,000 BBO players in the database (there are a lot more) who had played 2000 hands or more.

Was 2000 hands a typo? If it was wasn't, I think that if you raise the limit on the number of hands played, it would probably run faster. 2000 hands isnt that many (that would be about 55 hands a month over the last 36 months on average). So you will get a LOT of players that meet this criteria (which is why you had to quit at 200,000 players).

Try running it for players with more than 25,000 hands played, and lets see how many you get. :-)

[hotShot]

Let us assume that player started to play 1-1-2003 up to know, that is about 4 years. To reach 35000 he/she must have played 24 boards every single day since that date. It takes about 2.5 hours to do that.

[inquiry]

bid_em_up, on Dec 28 2006, 02:59 PM, said:

inquiry, on Dec 28 2006, 08:24 AM, said:

I didn't finish the report, I simply searched the first 200,000 BBO players in the database (there are a lot more) who had played 2000 hands or more.

Was 2000 hands a typo? If it was wasn't, I think that if you raise the limit on the number of hands played, it would probably run faster. 2000 hands isnt that many (that would be about 55 hands a month over the last 36 months on average). So you will get a LOT of players that meet this criteria (which is why you had to quit at 200,000 players).

Try running it for players with more than 25,000 hands played, and lets see how many you get. :-)

Sadly, it looks at each player no matter what number I use. The only advantage to using 2000 is that the ones it downloads the infomation for have to have played 2000 hands. This means less names to manipulate...

[matmat]

follow up questions:
how many boards have been played in the MBC?

is it possible to just run through those and "tally" the players in each hand? (presumably this could be done with some hash table or something.

m

[inquiry]

kgr, on Dec 28 2006, 06:22 AM, said:

Can we see how many hands we played ourselve? (I hope my wife is not able to see it!)
Can you tell me how many I played...just curious.

You have 3769 main room imp hands, and 19 main room matchpoint hands (there is a six or seven month gap where data is missing, hopefully that data will someday show up). In addition you have played another 554 hands in team games/tournaments. Again with the seven month gap....

That comes to 4323 hands.

[sceptic]

Ben anychance of knowing how many I have played and if my imps average is +1 average over the last 3 years

[Free]

sceptic, on Dec 29 2006, 10:25 AM, said:

Ben anychance of knowing how many I have played and if my imps average is +1 average over the last 3 years

+1.1 imp average, you're a cheater!!!

[sceptic]

moi?

[Mr. Dodgy]

I have played at least 8,269 hands on BBO in the last 2 years (11/day-ish), mostly in tournaments. I wouldn't consider myself to be a VERY heavy user. 35,000 is a lot but I'd probably have twice as many played if I were free to play as much as I might please.

I've also directed over 4,000 boards. And awarded more than 14,000 DodgyPoints hehe, blacklisting 2,809 IDs.

I average -0.18 and 48.05%. I suck.

[jikl]

Heh, I would hate to think what my average might be.

Sean

[pigpenz]

i remember when i fist started playing and went and saw I think Liby's hands on myhands and was suprised to see that it was around 3000 month that was almost 2 yrs ago. So I can believe it. My only experiences are in the MBC and ACBL games but alot of the folks on ACBL games are retired and play almost all the games everyday. Thats the possiblility of 108hands per day. So its easy to see how some achieve such high numbers.

[Wayne_LV]