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officeglen, on Dec 3 2006, 10:04 PM, said:
My wife and I continue to get unsolicited feedback on ACBL BBO games. Today was typical - we were out playing f2f and the table conversation goes:
Player: Haven't see you out much here, where are you playing?
Us: Mostly online.
Player: Which site?
Us: Bridge Base Online.
Player: You should have seen the other day in a ACBL tourney. I and another player are playing against two really good opponents, and my partner goes down in a cold contract, and then questions the signalling methods of the opponents. One opponents says "it doesn't matter, the contract was cold idiot". My partner then fires right back with a nasty comment. The TD is called and kicks out both my partner and the opponent, and then assigns -4 IMPs to me, so +4 IMPs to their side. Unbelievable!
Me: Actually both sides likely got -4 IMPs, just because your side got -4 for your partner's bad conduct does not mean they got +4. *
* at least I hope not!
The good news here is that ZT was employed, which it is not always. The bad news is:
a ) TD actions are not always being communicated properly, resulting sometimes in bad feelings;
b ) There seems to be some common frustration freely expressed by participants.
Perhaps this is just due to the quality of our f2f club TDs around here, so that is what the TDs online get measured by. However the only way to get a measure of the degree of problem of a and b above would be to note in each tourney where complaints should be directed. This would avoid the 3-5% of the same people reporting the same problems which really doesn't get us much anywhere.
Player: Haven't see you out much here, where are you playing?
Us: Mostly online.
Player: Which site?
Us: Bridge Base Online.
Player: You should have seen the other day in a ACBL tourney. I and another player are playing against two really good opponents, and my partner goes down in a cold contract, and then questions the signalling methods of the opponents. One opponents says "it doesn't matter, the contract was cold idiot". My partner then fires right back with a nasty comment. The TD is called and kicks out both my partner and the opponent, and then assigns -4 IMPs to me, so +4 IMPs to their side. Unbelievable!
Me: Actually both sides likely got -4 IMPs, just because your side got -4 for your partner's bad conduct does not mean they got +4. *
* at least I hope not!
The good news here is that ZT was employed, which it is not always. The bad news is:
a ) TD actions are not always being communicated properly, resulting sometimes in bad feelings;
b ) There seems to be some common frustration freely expressed by participants.
Perhaps this is just due to the quality of our f2f club TDs around here, so that is what the TDs online get measured by. However the only way to get a measure of the degree of problem of a and b above would be to note in each tourney where complaints should be directed. This would avoid the 3-5% of the same people reporting the same problems which really doesn't get us much anywhere.
Glen
my feeling is that if it says zero tolerance then it should be zero tolerance ot 1% tolerance or pick and choose tolerance.
maybe the real problem is:
1: some acbl bbo games are too large for the TD's
2: no real way for the TD's to see the public or private chat.
1: is easy to take care of have more TD's
2: is a little harder unless software can be built in too where the TD can go back in time and bring up chat at a table if necessary public or private. right now its copy and paste and hope that TD can see it, problem is the chat box doesnt allow multiple lines of chat to be put in, which is really necessary for the TD to see what has happened. Maybe a button could be made for copying chat that can be sent to the TD!
