[Impact]

keylime, on Oct 31 2006, 10:09 PM, said:

5NT I don't think is clear enough in overtones...since pard might pick a minor!

I think a takeout bid then 5NT might be better....

THe problems with that suggestion is that

a) partner may pass with his long suit (assuming a minor suit takeout scheme)

assuming you use 4NT as extreme strong takeout - and hence KNOW that you will get another chance, the 3 card disparity between the suits is just too great and partner will have too many ways to go wrong.

Note that 4NT is right on say AKxxxxx AKxxxx types or slightly stronger 6-6 shapes - or perhaps even if the S were the long suit as you can always convert, but it will be wrong far more often to let partner choose S on the basis of say 2-1 preference (or 2-0!!).....not to mention many other possibilities.

Put yourself in partner's shoes: if you encourage him to make an intelligent choice of contracts - you can't blame him for so doing! Attempting to find both Major Q or some such - or 4card S support (!!!) is fairytale stuff....

regards

[whereagles]

keylime, on Nov 1 2006, 03:09 AM, said:

5NT I don't think is clear enough in overtones...since pard might pick a minor!

Well, he picks a minor and I revert to hearts. That should clearly show the majors, no? I mean.. what else could I have for that bidding?