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Choose your own Adventure (II) If you passed

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Choose your own Adventure (II)

  1. Pass (13 votes [52.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.00%

  2. 3S (5 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  3. Other (7 votes [28.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.00%

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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2006-October-29, 02:24

Scoring: XIMP

Pass - (Pass) - 3♣ - (Pass)
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The auction continues as follows. What now?
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Posted 2006-October-29, 02:27

3♠. Usually this shows fit + side suit, but I intend to follow with 4♥. Hopefully pard will get the message. HOPEFULLY B)

In any case I don't think I'll score well if I pass this, so I think some action is required.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 02:57

pass again, patting myself on the back for my brilliant pass in first seat. I am able to stay low on this deal. I think this pass is really automatic, partner has shown a weak hand with clubs, where are you going? Sure you could find some magic fit but you could also just go to the stratosphere with no fit and no HCP.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 02:57

whereagles, on Oct 29 2006, 03:27 AM, said:

In any case I don't think I'll score well if I pass this, so I think some action is required.

why not? i think we'll score great, a lot of pairs will be opening 1S, later bidding 4H, and going for a digit.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 03:29

Pass - I am weak, partner is weak, we are not doubled, can I be happier?
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Posted 2006-October-29, 03:32

Jlall, on Oct 29 2006, 10:57 AM, said:

whereagles, on Oct 29 2006, 03:27 AM, said:

In any case I don't think I'll score well if I pass this, so I think some action is required.

why not?

Well, since echo posted this, partner could have a 3325 12-count B)

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Posted 2006-October-29, 04:33

3S, I am pretty sure, I cant bring myself to pass.

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Posted 2006-October-29, 04:57

Pass. Can't conceive of doing anything else.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 05:18

Ok. Seems the majority pass. The auction continues:

Pass - (Pass) - 3♣ - (Pass)
Pass - (3♦) - Pass - (3NT)
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Anything now?
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Posted 2006-October-29, 06:30

Jlall, on Oct 29 2006, 08:57 AM, said:

whereagles, on Oct 29 2006, 03:27 AM, said:

In any case I don't think I'll score well if I pass this, so I think some action is required.

why not? i think we'll score great, a lot of pairs will be opening 1S, later bidding 4H, and going for a digit.

Well, I've been in situations like this a couple of times (long 2 suiter vs pard pree). What I observed is this: in practice, pard's suit usually isn't as good as one hopes for and it's not that unusual that a 6-3 fit is available elsewhere.

I agree this makes more sense at matchpoints, though.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 13:02

Echognome, on Oct 29 2006, 01:18 PM, said:

Ok. Seems the majority pass. The auction continues:

Pass - (Pass) - 3♣ - (Pass)
Pass - (3♦) - Pass - (3NT)
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Anything now?

Pass.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 13:21

Well, now I pass as well. Opps had all the time they needed to exchange information. To try for a major save now has become too risky.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 17:02

Surely bidding 3♠ now (or 3♥) would/should be interpreted by partner as showing a goodish/longish suit, not suited for a preemptive opening, with a real ♣ fit?

Maybe AQxxx xxxx x KJx..... in case partner held Kxx x xx AQxxxxx

Partner is in 3rd seat and so has the widest range of values for 3♣.

I passed the first time and I cannot imagine bidding here.

The good news is that it is extremely unlikely that LHO is about to balance with a double.

If he does, 3♣ may be bloody, but I'm going to have to stick it out, since a reopening double will almost certainly convey 4=4 in the majors. It might be best to bid 3♦ and redouble: but then partner with 1=1=4=7 would probably leave it in out of spite :)
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Posted 2006-October-29, 17:04

mikeh, on Oct 30 2006, 12:02 AM, said:

If he does, 3♣ may be bloody, but I'm going to have to stick it out, since a reopening double will almost certainly convey 4=4 in the majors. It might be best to bid 3♦ and redouble: but then partner with 1=1=4=7 would probably leave it in out of spite :)

Wouldn't redoubling 3♣ show a 2-suiter on this sequence? I'd expect a 4450 to be best off sticking out 3♣ doubled.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 17:04

Pass and lead a ♣.

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Okay, since I don't have any, I'll lead the other black suit: the 10♠. Maybe the J is doubleton and partner holds the non-stiff Q....or Ax or...... anyway, a ♠ seems far, far better than a ♥.
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Posted 2006-October-29, 20:36

Pass again for the same reasons that I passed over 3C.
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Posted 2006-October-30, 00:15

Have to pass 3C now. Any bid will clearly be construed as a fit. Seems like I made a good decision to pass initially.
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Posted 2006-November-01, 22:05

If I had passed initially, I would have to pass again and again.
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Posted 2006-November-01, 22:08

Pass. Don't rescue DOP.

I lead the T♠.
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