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IMPS...max penalty your defense to max penalty

Poll: your play at trick at trick three (11 member(s) have cast votes)

your play at trick at trick three

  1. spade (3 votes [27.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  2. K spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. diamond (5 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  4. club (3 votes [27.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  5. heart (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   pigpenz 

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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:25

you lead small heart partner wins ace and returns heart to your King, your play what would you switch to?

auction: IMPS vul vs nv

1 x p 1
p 4 4 x
p p p

Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:27

I would trust partner to have given suit preference. If he really led back a small heart, I would play a club. BTW why did I bid 1H? :P I have no idea what RHO is up to.
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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:28

small club
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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:30

Jlall, on Oct 26 2005, 11:27 AM, said:

I would trust partner to have given suit preference. If he really led back a small heart, I would play a club. BTW why did I bid 1H? :P I have no idea what RHO is up to.

cause your a hand hog thats why you bid one heart :P

If the hand doesnt belong to you do want partner to lead a diamond?
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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:39

RHO's bidding is weird whatever he has, but I can't imagine him holding an ace. I wonder whether he might just have 5 spades and read that you "always bid 4 over 4". If so, drawing 2 rounds of trumps before starting heart forces looks attractive, doesn't it?

I think it is impossible to answer this one without knowing more about the bidding and partner's signal. Would partner start with a double on a 2=6=3=2 19 count?

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Posted 2005-October-26, 10:40

the 1H bid obviously worked out great for me here. We pushed them into 4S and I got my heart lead.

You're right, I don't want a diamond lead, but I do want to find our longest trump fit, and I do not want to distort my hand needlessly. I have no reason to think that it will be their hand and I won't be on lead myself even if it is. Partner asked me to bid my longest suit, and I think not doing so could be classified as masterminding. It could excite partner into jumping to 3H (what am I supposed to do over that? I guess pass, but I'm very strong...) or 4 I guess. Partner with 5 spades and 4 hearts and a big hand will probably not be able to get us into spades either after 1H.
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Posted 2005-October-26, 11:33

cherdano, on Oct 26 2005, 11:39 AM, said:

I think it is impossible to answer this one without knowing more about the bidding and partner's signal. Would partner start with a double on a 2=6=3=2 19 count?

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Seems that RHO must have a H to ruff as well as a C loser and a D to find and pard has 3S cards so I will return a small trump and let them solve their own minor suit dilemma. (since the size of the H return was not mentioned I take it as ambiguous so that pard is asking my opinion about the return.)

Boy have I ever been wrong before when I take positions like this, but what the hey....
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Posted 2005-October-26, 11:35

Be still my heart, a kindred spirit has escaped from the asylum....lol (2 small S votes)
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Posted 2005-October-26, 11:37

I agree with everything Justin said about the auction.

Not everyone plays weak jumps shifts; I would guess RHO has a more-or-less that: a long (should be 7 but he might be insane) spade suit with few high cards.

It wouldn't have surprised me if partner only had 4 hearts, and RHO thought he was hitting heart shortage in dummy. As he has short(ish) spades, partner shows signs of being strong balanced.

Now, I'm obviously in a minority here, but my partner would have given me count on the heart on the way back.

Back to the hand in question. Can partner have 6 hearts? Well, my partner can't; he would have to have a hugely good hand to double first, and then he wouldn't have bid 4H he'd have looked for a slam.

Playing with my usual partners I think it's right to switch to a trump. Partner might have Ax (though then I don't know why he didn't switch himself), or he might have Jx and declarer goes wrong.
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Posted 2005-October-26, 11:46

No matter how many S declarer has, the shorter he is, the more C he must have, right? Why didn't he bid over the double? He has H and S and was sitting in the bushes. (even 5S to the T and 3 or 4H to the J is enough with Qxx in C and A(x) in D. When he heard the 4H bid, he thinks p is stiff or void and expects the sac to be right.
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Posted 2005-October-26, 19:58

why pard did not return a ?
there is something funny going on here:
- pard must have 5 (I can easily be bidding on 3 cards, and in any case he can always cue-bid )
- the only (reasonable) honors that LHO can have are KQ in
- pard cannot be singleton in (I would expect a splinter, rather than 4). So he has 2 or 3 small (guess 2)
- pard 2nd must be an indication of something

Overall, i believe i would return the 8 (and start thinking who could be my next partner ;) )
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