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#1 Echognome

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Posted 2005-October-07, 07:46

Scoring: XIMP

(P) - P - (1♣) - 1♥
(X) - XX - (2♦) - ?

LHO's double was the usual negative one.

Partner's redouble showed Ax or Kx of hearts (by agreement).

RHO's 2♦ did not show any extra values.

What do you bid now?

If you dislike the 1♥, what else would you bid? If you dislike the meaning of XX, what else would you have it mean?

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#2 paulg

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Posted 2005-October-07, 07:59

I'd double for takeout and see what CHO does. I'll pass 2♥ and bid 2NT over 2♠.

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BTW, I think this is a Rosenkrantz Redouble rather than a support redouble (which shows 3-card support).

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#3 Guest_Jlall_*

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Posted 2005-October-07, 08:33

Pass. I see no reason to bid. My "suit" is not much of one and I know we don't have an 8 card fit, RHO has bid my second suit, LHO has shown spades, and they are currently in diamonds where i have excellent prospects on defense. Where am I going?

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Posted 2005-October-07, 09:18

Hard to see how opp's 2D bid doesn't show any "extras". Based on your C holding, pard rates to have S and D to go along with his HK. Based on your hcp I like 2NT, but if your pard can make his bid on 4 hcp and opp has a real 16+ hcp reverse.....(he could have passed and let his pard bid) perhaps pass is the best.

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Posted 2005-October-07, 09:39

Pass for now.

I expect this to end the auction, since LHO can hardly be about to correct to ♣ and partner will not be bidding 2♥ when he has already shown his support and he probably has 3 or 4 ♦. Game is an awful long way away, and probably unbiddable and unmakeable if partner has a pass of 2♦.

So I will sit back and take my probable plus: I even have an easy lead

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#6 P_Marlowe

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Posted 2005-October-07, 09:58

Pass, you can expect partner to bid 2H,
if he holds 3 card support.
The XX, assuming it is Rossenkranz, does
not deny Hxx.

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Posted 2005-October-07, 12:38

Double for penalty.

Yeah I know a lot of people play doubles in all auctions are takeout, but a takeout double here seems weird. If double is takeout, then for which suit(s)? RHO has bid two suits. LHO has shown a third. I should already know whether we have a heart fit (partner has shown two). I don't believe in "takeout" doubles when four suits have been bid!

So double here is either penalty or, if you have a real hatred of penalty doubles, then "cards." In either case double must be a reasonable choice.

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#8 han

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Posted 2005-October-07, 13:53

A penalty double with only 2 trumps at the 2-level, yuck!

I would double unless we play this as a penalty double.

Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-October-07, 13:57

I vote for creating a new type of double, the "I'm frustrated at the state of the auction so I'm going to double and see what happens eventually. I propose the name "See what Happens In Time" Double. Should at least be popular with the forum crowd....lol

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Posted 2005-October-07, 14:01

Peter, in what way is that double different from a card showing double?

(I know that I'm making a serious reply to a joke)

Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-October-07, 14:01

Its all in the name (or acronym) my friend....

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Posted 2005-October-07, 14:20

Ah, thanks for pointing that out, I missed it.

Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-October-07, 17:34

Double seems appealing

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Posted 2005-October-10, 03:46

Double for penalties

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Posted 2005-October-10, 03:54

Would anyone have considered overcalling a natural 1NT with Qxxxx in hearts ?

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Posted 2005-October-10, 05:45

Yes, 1NT would have been my choice. Seems the most descriptive bid available. No need to go screaming about hearts.

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Posted 2005-October-10, 08:09

Chamaco, on Oct 10 2005, 04:54 AM, said:

Would anyone have considered overcalling a natural 1NT with Qxxxx in hearts ?

1N is ok, but in my experience 5422s will very often play better in a suit, so 1H is ok too. If one of my clubs was in a pointed suit I would bid 1N for sure.

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Posted 2005-October-10, 08:23

Jlall, on Oct 10 2005, 02:09 PM, said:

Chamaco, on Oct 10 2005, 04:54 AM, said:

Would anyone have considered overcalling a natural 1NT with Qxxxx in hearts ?

1N is ok, but in my experience 5422s will very often play better in a suit,

Justin, I can see that when deciding to OPEN a hand 1NT.

But do you think having the 4 bagger in OPPS suit makes also the hand best suited for a suit contract ?

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#19 Guest_Jlall_*

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Posted 2005-October-10, 08:25

Chamaco, on Oct 10 2005, 09:23 AM, said:

Jlall, on Oct 10 2005, 02:09 PM, said:

Chamaco, on Oct 10 2005, 04:54 AM, said:

Would anyone have considered overcalling a natural 1NT with Qxxxx in hearts ?

1N is ok, but in my experience 5422s will very often play better in a suit,

Justin, I can see that when deciding to OPEN a hand 1NT.

But do you think having the 4 bagger in OPPS suit makes also the hand best suited for a suit contract ?

Well, we still have 2 clubs for partner to ruff if we're in a 5-3 fit, and we still have 2 doubletons if we need to cross ruff/dummy reversal the hand.

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Posted 2005-October-10, 16:34

Chamaco, on Oct 10 2005, 04:54 AM, said:

Would anyone have considered overcalling a natural 1NT with Qxxxx in hearts ?

Would give a 1NT bid serious consideration. P usually has an easier time bidding in response to a limited, descriptive bid, and 1NT takes the pressure off the overcaller for the second round. Suppose partner responds 1S to your 1H bid. Your rebid is...................?

BTW: re 5422 usually playing better in a suit. Seems to me that I recently saw some hands with 15-17 hcp and 4-5 in majors opened 1NT on viewgraph on several occasions. Very Interesting.

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