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♠KTx ♥Qx ♦AQTxxx ♣xx
You open 1♦ and partner responds 1♠. Please rate 1NT, 2♦, 2♠ and any other rebid you would consider on a scale of 0-10 points.
(If it matters, 1NT opener is 14-16 and 1♦ promised 4.)
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Posted 2010-April-29, 16:41
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Posted 2010-April-29, 16:55
2♦ 10
2♠ 2
1N 1
2♠ 2
1N 1
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Posted 2010-April-29, 17:00
2♦ 10
2♠ 6
1N 0
IN is simply not bridge. If you want to maximize mp entitlement (the reason most rush into NT), bid spades instead of diamonds.
I don't mind 2♠ very much, but this hand is not quite good enough, for spades, to want to have partner be aggressive. When one is choosing between rebidding a minor and raising, one factor to consider is that partner will often be forced to pass 2minor when knowing of major support would allow him to move towards game. But this hand is so weak that I don't mind being dropped in 2♦ even (especially) when he has a hand that would invite game if I had raised.
2♠ 6
1N 0
IN is simply not bridge. If you want to maximize mp entitlement (the reason most rush into NT), bid spades instead of diamonds.
I don't mind 2♠ very much, but this hand is not quite good enough, for spades, to want to have partner be aggressive. When one is choosing between rebidding a minor and raising, one factor to consider is that partner will often be forced to pass 2minor when knowing of major support would allow him to move towards game. But this hand is so weak that I don't mind being dropped in 2♦ even (especially) when he has a hand that would invite game if I had raised.
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Posted 2010-April-29, 17:08
I wouldn't consider anything except 2♦.
OK
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Posted 2010-April-29, 17:09
I think 2♠ is ok, assuming that we can describe the hand by bidding 3♦ over partner's 2NT inquiry. OTOH the hand isn't that good, if p can't move over 2♦ I think we are unlikely to have missed anything.
2♦ 10
2♠ 5
Monkey 0
2♦ 10
2♠ 5
Monkey 0
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Posted 2010-April-29, 17:11
jillybean, on Apr 29 2010, 06:55 PM, said:
2♦ 10
2♠ 2
1N 1
2♠ 2
1N 1
agreed, although that might be generous to 1NT.
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Posted 2010-April-29, 17:18
I dislike raising with 6322, 2♦ is fine. I would pretty much never raise with 6322, I was trying to come up with something well maybe AKQxxx and Axx. But usually with no singleton I rebid one of
2D
2N
3D
2D
2N
3D
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-April-29, 17:23
2♦ is obvious but I disagree with the field on one point. I really don't think 1NT is much worse if at all than 2♠. To me it's like 2♦ = 10, 2♠ = 3, 1NT = 3.
Gwnn I raise on AKx xx Axxxxx xx.
Gwnn I raise on AKx xx Axxxxx xx.
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Posted 2010-April-29, 21:16
jdonn, on Apr 29 2010, 06:23 PM, said:
2♦ is obvious but I disagree with the field on one point. I really don't think 1NT is much worse if at all than 2♠. To me it's like 2♦ = 10, 2♠ = 3, 1NT = 3.
Gwnn I raise on AKx xx Axxxxx xx.
Gwnn I raise on AKx xx Axxxxx xx.
This looks about right of course we don't know if this is IMPs or MPs
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Posted 2010-April-29, 21:45
imps, MP, whatever.....2D
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Posted 2010-April-29, 21:52
agree 2d...
1nt or 2s distant second
1nt or 2s distant second
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Posted 2010-April-29, 22:00
I agree with the masses, defintiely 2♦. I would bid 2♠ before 1NT.
I will go with:
2♦ 10
2♠ 4
1NT 1
I will go with:
2♦ 10
2♠ 4
1NT 1
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Posted 2010-April-30, 02:31
I only like to support on a 3 card if I have a problem with other rebids... Here I don't, 2♦ is pretty obvious imo. I have no reason to bid 1NT.
2♦ 10
2♠ 5
1NT 0
2♦ 10
2♠ 5
1NT 0
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Posted 2010-April-30, 04:21
jdonn, on Apr 29 2010, 11:23 PM, said:
Gwnn I raise on AKx xx Axxxxx xx.
I'm not happy to raise with AKx because I don't like to see partner ruff with the K and A but I'd raise too because everything else looks worse.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-April-30, 05:52
mgoetze, on Apr 29 2010, 10:41 PM, said:
♠KTx ♥Qx ♦AQTxxx ♣xx
1♦ 1♠. Please rate 1NT, 2♦, 2♠ and any other rebid you would consider on a scale of 0-10 points.
(If it matters, 1NT opener is 14-16 and 1♦ promised 4.)
1♦ 1♠. Please rate 1NT, 2♦, 2♠ and any other rebid you would consider on a scale of 0-10 points.
(If it matters, 1NT opener is 14-16 and 1♦ promised 4.)
2♦: 10
1NT: 6
2♠: 3
other: 0
2♦: the standard bid here. It will only be inferior if pard has 5314 and a weakish hand (he'll pass 2♦ when 2♠ would probably be better).
1NT: not a big lie and has the advantage of making it easy to reach a 2♠ contract.
2♠: this is guessing that 2♠ on what can be an xxxx suit across is a better contract than diamonds. It's one-sided, though it can work allright.
Others: what others?
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Posted 2010-April-30, 08:58
2D 100
all the other bids 000000000000000000000000
all the other bids 000000000000000000000000
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Posted 2010-April-30, 09:26
gwnn, on Apr 30 2010, 05:21 AM, said:
jdonn, on Apr 29 2010, 11:23 PM, said:
Gwnn I raise on AKx xx Axxxxx xx.
I'm not happy to raise with AKx because I don't like to see partner ruff with the K and A but I'd raise too because everything else looks worse.
You mean he got 3 ruffs in dummy? I'm happy!
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Posted 2010-May-01, 04:04
What systems do people have to find a 5-3 spade fit after 2♦?
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Posted 2010-May-01, 10:04
Hi,
2D is normal, I have a 6 carder, although 2D does not promise 6.
2S is a matter of partnership agreement, I prefer to have a single,
if I raise with only 3 card support
1NT - why?
With kind regards
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2D is normal, I have a 6 carder, although 2D does not promise 6.
2S is a matter of partnership agreement, I prefer to have a single,
if I raise with only 3 card support
1NT - why?
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2010-May-01, 10:06
dealmegold, on May 1 2010, 05:04 AM, said:
What systems do people have to find a 5-3 spade fit after 2♦?
Hi,
it is quite common to play 2H over 2D as artificial, one purpose
is to find a 5-3 fit in responders major.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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