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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2005-September-11, 20:13

Scoring: IMP

1♠ - (2♦) - 3♣ - (P)
3♦ - (P) - 3♠ - (P)
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Playing with a partner you play with seldom, you are playing pretty much basic Acol.

1) Do you play 3♣ here as GF by partner?
2) Do you agree with the 3♦ bid?
3) What now?
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Posted 2005-September-11, 20:18

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) 4♠
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Posted 2005-September-12, 02:50

1. Yes, but this is the sort of thing one should discuss with pard before a match :)
2. Seems fine to me.
3. In a casual partnership, 4♠. With pet pard, 3NT expressing doubt.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 08:32

1) it is playing basic Acol, with a weaker hand
he should make a neg. X, personnaly I dont
2) Yes, your most likely game is 3NT, you need
a stopper
3) 4S, what else? You hold a minimum opener
with few controlls.

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Posted 2005-September-12, 09:56

1) yes
2) No, would bid 3♥, 3♦ should show beter clubs or stronger.
3) 4♠, 3NT will suggest strrong balanced now.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 10:36

Scoring: IMP

1♠ - (2♦) - 3♣ - (P)
3♦ - (P) - 3♠ - All Pass


I admit that this one I butchered completely. Saw my partner make a few aggressive bids earlier and wasn't feeling confident he meant his 3♣ as a game force. (He later said he thought my 3♦ was game forcing.) Obviously we needed to agree it. I think that playing a new suit at the 3 level as game forcing makes a lot of sense though, so take full responsibility. Live and learn.
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Posted 2005-September-12, 12:03

Echognome, on Sep 12 2005, 08:36 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♠ - (2♦) - 3♣ - (P)
3♦ - (P) - 3♠ - All Pass


I admit that this one I butchered completely. Saw my partner make a few aggressive bids earlier and wasn't feeling confident he meant his 3♣ as a game force. (He later said he thought my 3♦ was game forcing.) Obviously we needed to agree it. I think that playing a new suit at the 3 level as game forcing makes a lot of sense though, so take full responsibility. Live and learn.

Matt, what may have happened is you felt ashamed of your cue bid and passed a forcing bid. Playing sayc, 2/1, or ACOL ( I guess), 3♣ should be a game force.

I wouldn't cue with this, since I don't use cue bids to 'punt'. I would just rebid my nice 5 card suit.
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