[han]

Scoring: IMP

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I went for a big number with the above hand. The auction was 1S-p-2S to me, and I bid 3H, ouch!

Pretty clear now to me that I should have doubled instead. How clear do you think that is? How much would the heart suit need to change before you would bid 3H?

btw, My partner was trying to help as much as possible, even his name said Double !

[Elianna]

Hannie, on Oct 9 2005, 09:45 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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I went for a big number with the above hand. The auction was 1S-p-2S to me, and I bid 3H, ouch!

Pretty clear now to me that I should have doubled instead. How clear do you think that is? How much would the heart suit need to change before you would bid 3H?

btw, My partner was trying to help as much as possible, even his name said Double !

I think that you'd have to make my heart heart suit something like AKTxxx to bid 3H instead of doubling.

[mike777]

KQT9xx, AKxxxx, etc for me.

but these things are always easier away from the table.

[Winstonm]

With this shape and HCP range, I can't come up with a hand that I'd bid 3H unless maybe x, AKQJx, xxxx, Axx. Even with x, AKQxx, Jxxx, Axx I prefer the double.

Winston

[000002]

3suiters here , not ♥only

[joker_gib]

Yes, ♥ suit is awful for that position and you have support for all other suits so Dbl is clearly better, imho

Alain

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

if you bid, and bidding is not clear cut,
double is better, 3H should show a fairly
solid 6 card suit and something on the side,
because they will kill you, if it is right.

... Depending on the strength of your
opponents you do not even disturb there
constructive bidding, because they will have
maximal doubles to invite.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: You should also ask the oppoenents, if they
play constructive raises, which would make bidding
even more dangerous.

[whereagles]

Do you have to bid NOW? Yes, because pard, with lenght in spades and weakish hand, will never dare to reopen.

What to bid? Double is probably better because it doesn't put the eggs all in one basket, like 3♥ does. Besides, if pard has a minor suit to run to, he'll have to bid it at the FOUR level.

[inquiry]

Bidding is clear, or they will steal you blind. But the bid should be double (of course). And, no equal level conversion. If partner doesn't bid ♥, they maybe lost. That is harsh, but introducitong hearts with your sides first bid at the three level vul on King-ten empty fifth at imps is, as Martha Stewart would say if she played bridged... "(not) a good thing."

[P_Marlowe]

whereagles, on Oct 10 2005, 12:56 PM, said:

Do you have to bid NOW? Yes, because pard, with lenght in spades and weakish hand, will never dare to reopen.

What to bid? Double is probably better because it doesn't put the eggs all in one basket, like 3♥ does. Besides, if pard has a minor suit to run to, he'll have to bid it at the FOUR level.

If you want to bid, do it, but accept 800-1100.

How high are the chance, that you have game?
If you believe the risk is worth it, go ahead,
but I would pass.
Of course if you do it regular, ask the opponent
to have merci with you, and that they do not double
you at the 3 level.

I may be tempted, if the Ace of spades would be
the Ace of hearts / diamonds, but it is not clear,
switch the mayors and double is clear,
but then ... I have the chance to play on the 2 level.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[han]

I would never dare,
to pass on this hand,
as I would be afraid that,
I would be known as somebody of whom,
you can easily steal.

As a side question, if I do double, what should partner's 2NT call be? Should it be lebensohl (G/B 2NT), or should it show 2 different places to play?

I prefer the second treatment, so that you can double more often with less than perfect shape and still land on your feet. My honorable partner prefers to play 2NT as lebensohl here, and I can certainly see the merits of that treatment. What do you prefer?

[P_Marlowe]

Hannie, on Oct 10 2005, 01:15 PM, said:

I would never dare,
to pass on this hand,
as I would be afraid that,
I would be known as somebody of whom,
you can easily steal.

As a side question, if I do double, what should partner's 2NT call be? Should it be lebensohl (G/B 2NT), or should it show 2 different places to play?

I prefer the second treatment, so that you can double more often with less than perfect shape and still land on your feet. My honorable partner prefers to play 2NT as lebensohl here, and I can certainly see the merits of that treatment. What do you prefer?

Hi,

I would suggest, to play 2NT as kind of scrambling,
i.e. the 2NT bidder asks for the better minor.
If you go in, at least you should have a safety net.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: S.J. Simon wrote in his famous book once,
"The Poker player who never gets bluffed, is a losing
player, similar, If you dont allow the opponents to rob
you once, you will loose more in the end."

This statement was meant with regards to how to handle
psych bids, but it easily fits here".

[pclayton]

Its tougher at MPs where -1400 is just another zero. A 5-3 heart fit can make all the difference.

At Imps - we should be able to find our best fit with a scrambling 2N by pard.

Yeah I pre-balance with this hand. In spite of my anti-OBAR mentality, I don't expect pard to reopen on his balanced 6 count.

[cherdano]

Double! was 100% clear. I would even be tempted to double with 2=5=3=3 and would most likely do so with 2=3=(53). What is everybody else's default bid with these shapes (assuming you are strong enough to take action)?

Arend

[luke warm]

klinger: SITES TOXIC

Short
In
The
Enemy's
Suit?

Take
Out
X
Is
Correct

and he does it with less than perfect shape, though with more strength for off shape hands

[Fluffy]

I need a 6th ♥ or maybe KQJ10 althou that is close and maybe will double as well.

[000002]

W~~~~~N~~~~~~E~~~~~S
1♠-----PASS------2♠----DBL
PASS-----2NT？

GB2NT HERE:
1)north (only )40% has a 4cards longest suit;and 1/4 is ♥,1/4 is ♠
2)opps 16 hcp(total) is likely
3)too hard to penalize me unless openner redbl,but u can bid pass to show a flat hand now

good regards